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Post by Storyteller on Mar 26, 2014 19:50:03 GMT -8
I like our Rapunzel better too! OUAT very specifically didn't use the 'Tangled' Rapunzel and I personally think it was a mistake because she is just such a great character. Plus the fact that they totally could have cast Mandy Moore (the voice of Rapunzel in 'Tangled'). I think that was what disappointed me most. I was really hoping they'd do that because, for me, Mandy Moore IS Rapunzel. Even when I made my character, I couldn't find anyone I liked more than her.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Mar 27, 2014 10:57:50 GMT -8
Zelena Zelena, the bitchy witch, is entering the cell with the cage, where she left Rumpel behind. Her eyes are widening, as she realizes the cage is empty and the imp has gone. "Where the hell...?", she is about to shout out loud in anger, as...
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Mar 27, 2014 10:58:36 GMT -8
With one fast move Rumpel comes out of the shadow and hold a dagger to the witche's throat... his dagger. "You fed the madness... now it feeds on you... ♫ ♪...", he is singing, while Zelena slowly falls to the ground, right at Rumpel's feet. "Ding-Dong! The witch is dead... the witch is dead... ♫ ♪" LMAO!
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Post by Medieval Kevin on Mar 27, 2014 16:08:16 GMT -8
I would pay to see that hahaha! love it
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Mar 30, 2014 20:21:01 GMT -8
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3x15 Quiet Minds
Aired 03/30/2014
Neal tries to find his father and reconnect with Henry, who no longer remembers him. Meanwhile, in the past, Neal, Belle, and Lumiere try to bring Rumplestiltskin back from the dead.
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Post by Storyteller on Mar 30, 2014 22:12:02 GMT -8
This second half of season three, my excitement had been somewhat renewed for this show. After this episode, I am just so done. Seriously, could they have killed Neal off any quicker or in any cornier a manner? And would it really be so much to ask for our heroes to think a little bit? I may come back and finish the season later, not deleting it from my DVR schedule yet, but I seriously have no desire to watch any more right now.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Mar 31, 2014 10:41:07 GMT -8
Oh dearie... I hear you! I feel very sad about Neal's dead. But as for me I was prepared for it, as someone told me about a rumor that the actor wanted to left the show plus that they gonna kill a main character. :/ It's always difficult to let someone die, because of that reason. Though I agree with you, that they should have choosen another way. And Gosh, I so hate the green witch up from now! Anyway, I didn't think that it was a bad episode at all. I was about to cry at the end scene, when bitchy witch caged Rumpel again. But I felt the same way as you, when they made me believe Rumpel would have gone... Sadly I don't believe in a comeback of Neal... as much as I wish...
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Post by Storyteller on Mar 31, 2014 12:05:10 GMT -8
That was the rumor but the actor who plays Neal actually just tweeted today that he never asked to be let go from the show. That it was only a dramatic plot twist. I can't help but feel it was only done to clear the way for CaptainSwan.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Mar 31, 2014 13:31:56 GMT -8
Well, that would be a really bad reason... I anyway always hoped there would be a reunion of Neal/Emma someday. I loved the past episode "Tallahassee", when they met in the stolen car so much! I really liked Neal/Bae. Plus he was Rumpel's son. I think Rumpel really had to suffer too much... Now he lost his son for the third time. And this time forever... *snif*
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Post by The Jester Of Tortuga on Mar 31, 2014 13:34:44 GMT -8
Poor Neal... Poor Neal... And that bloody Lion!
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Apr 1, 2014 23:03:13 GMT -8
I thought about that, when she mentioned the shaving but she could have been referring to the man who raised her. Even if it's not your birth parents, if you were raised by them, you usually refer to them as mother and father.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Apr 1, 2014 23:06:36 GMT -8
Totally agree that our Rapunzel here is WAY better! This one was so meh. And the witch keeping her the whole time was herself? What the heck did that have to do with her hair growing all crazy lengths?
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Apr 1, 2014 23:25:20 GMT -8
What. Was. That. Seriously! That was such a mess of an episode. It felt like nobody, from the writers to the actors, had their hearts in that episode. I liked the parts with Regina and Robin but what the heck was that whole Rumpel/Neal thing? I just didn't get it. At first, I was so excited at seeing Lumiere but then that was totally ruined as he was thrown in to help bring about this weird, strange, pointlessness. I mean, seriously, what was that nonsense? I understand that sometimes it's vital to a story to kill off a main character but you have to do it in a way that enriches the story and makes the loss heartfelt or heart wrenching. This did none of the above. It felt like everyone had to scramble five minutes before showtime to cover for an actor who had to leave. What exactly is the story behind that? I've only read a very little bit about it. Tweets from the actor saying he didn't want to leave, that there were no hard feelings, some random thing about not trashing a trailer? Even the little I read about it didn't make sense. What's the real story? Did he want to leave? Did the actor do something to cause the writers to decide he had to be off the show and had to make it quick? I know that happened with "Lost" after a couple actors got involved with DUIs but they did it in such a great way that it enriched the story. I also still have no idea what the hell that whole story was. So the Dark One was dead but wait! If you open this weird vault in the snow where the original Dark One had been created, he'll randomly come back to life, not as the original Dark One, but the person who most recently held the title but the person who opens it will die? And wait! Let's prolong Neil's death by literally absorbing Neil into himself. WTF?! Then back in Storybrooke, they claim that Rumpel was running around all crazy because he was out of his mind since part of him was living in Neil? Wait, didn't he totally absorb Neil into himself so they were like one person? Then how was it possible Neil and Rumpel were both there when in Storybrooke? And if Rumpel was separate and elsewhere, how did they pull him out of Neil? I'm confused. Are they saying that the two kept switching from one to the other? I thought about that but then realized that was impossible because there were two different scenes overlapping where we saw Neil and Rumpel. I can't remember which and I really don't feel like it's worth the effort to try to remember. This is the one and only time where this week's episode of "Once Upon a Time in Wonderland" was better than "Once Upon a Time" and that's really saying something. I gave it a 2 out of 5 only because anything not involving this Rumpel/Neil fiasco was decent and I finally got to see Regina react to the Robin Hood reveal.
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Post by Medieval Kevin on Apr 2, 2014 9:37:04 GMT -8
Hmmm that does make the whole hair thing pointless come to think of it. boo
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Apr 2, 2014 9:58:31 GMT -8
no no, no way she's Rumpel's daughter, dearie! There are two reasons. First: I hate her. So she cannot be awesome Rumpel's daughter... xD Second: As I casually watched "the heart of Cora" again today (I was totally annoyed from work and ouat episode always brings me down from that xD), I realized that Regina was her first born. at this point Cora already ripped out her heart and left Rumpel. So I doubt they even really had a thing. Btw I loved them together very much, but as a Rumbelle fan, I may not say that too loud
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Apr 2, 2014 10:01:37 GMT -8
It does. Plus she seemed very unimportant to me. Just as they wanted to full the show with a new fairytale character.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Apr 2, 2014 10:15:20 GMT -8
I expected much more about the story behind Rumpel's return, too Man, I would have had so really better ideas, if I was the writer of the show... Of course I am happy that Rumpel DID return, but how could they connect that with Neal's dead?? I mean, Rumpel and his son are basically the reason that the curse and Storybrooke ever existed! Rumpel's sacrifice now seemed so senseless. He gave his life for his son and the others. And his son must give his life for his return?! Oh come on, writers! Did you have a bad patch?!? o.O Btw what is Once Upon A Time In Wonderland? Does it have something to do with OUAT?
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Post by Storyteller on Apr 2, 2014 10:34:14 GMT -8
The biggest problem with OUAT is that, unless they are related to Henry or a love interest to one of his relatives, characters will have no purpose other than plot fodder. Season one wasn't like that. Look at what they did to Red. She became a series regular between seasons one and two. They had this grand story line for her and a potential romantic interest in Dr. Whale. That was why she was made a regular. Then they got the rights for Peter Pan and dropped all of it like yesterday's news. As a result, Meghan Ory was barely used when not propelling forward the Charming family plot so she left the show.
When was the last time Archie or Grumpy or Granny or any of the other characters we've loved since the pilot had their own plot? For that matter, when was the last time Belle had something to do that wasn't related to her relationship with Rumpel? I love Rumbelle but really, girl needs a character and a story outside of it.
I don't want any more superfluous imminent danger aimed at Snow/Regina/Rumpel/Charming/Henry. Emma's the Saviour and the real main character so I can see her always being involved in the danger somehow. But I want more Ariel. I want Aurora, Phillip and Mulan. I want Red and Granny. I want a Rapunzel who actually has a story and a character. I want Belle. I want Archie and the Dwarves. I want less Hook, mostly because the way he suddenly became the show's superstar annoys the crap out of me. I know I'll never get that so I really think I'd rather spend my time here making what I want to see rather than being force fed lacklustre dialogue and recycled plots.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Apr 2, 2014 10:50:02 GMT -8
I do agree that they have disregarded so many characters. I loved Grumpy with Nova so much in season 1 and now it's like Nova would never have existed. Grumpy became a character, who now and then makes a funny slogan but not more... Where is his lovely fairy? And the Madhatter with his daughter? Where are they? I loved him, too. And I want more of Viktor and Red! Well, and what about Tink? Is she unimportant, now if Peter Pan died away? Show us more about her and the relation between her and Regina! I started to get annoyed out of Snow and Charming. I liked Snow in the beginning as the cheeky thief, who robbed out Charming! But now... she became a stupid woman, blind from her rainbow and unicorn stickers world... poor thing! Actually I like Hook! But I don't really want him see in a romance with Emma! Neal was the one I wanted her to see with. I wanna see Hook as the rival of the crocodile!! So Kevin, let us play out what the show is mostly refusing to us! I really hope the writers of the show will find the way back to the good old episodes, in which every character deserved their story and their happy ending...
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Post by Medieval Kevin on Apr 3, 2014 8:10:08 GMT -8
I wholeheartedly agree! This is our chance to see what should have happened. In here the characters belong to us. I have a suggestion, let me know what you think.
How about I take hook away from neverland (We can still continue that when emma has a few moments to spare) but im thinking maybe that was a flashback (since he fled there right after mila died) and we can have him elsewhere causing mischief. I'm guessing he will make more trips there and back to pass the time but for now I'd like to get him involved with rumpel again
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Apr 3, 2014 10:53:38 GMT -8
So absolutely YES! I really can't wait for a meeting between both of them! I have seen it as a flashback scene, too. So I wouldn't have a problem with that. I actually liked the idea about Hook is kidnapping Belle... but without Emma we also don't have a Belle. :-(
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Post by Davy Jones on Apr 3, 2014 14:09:39 GMT -8
That's true sadly :-( lets set something up and see what she thinks but so we can do something together, what is a side plot we can get started? some other way Hook might try and hurt rumpel? we can always come back to the belle kidnapping :-) etickner95DarkSideCookie
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Post by Storyteller on Apr 3, 2014 17:30:49 GMT -8
The dagger? Maybe you can tie that in with the Belle thing too. On the show, Hook went after Belle to get information on the dagger.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Apr 3, 2014 17:56:13 GMT -8
But my theory was that she was pregnant when she ripped out her heart and didn't know it. Of course she'd say that Regina is her first because she hid the other in a whole other land. After she took her heart out, she was all about gaining power by any means. I'm kinda thinking she's not though because there are just way too many surprise family links. It's kinda starting to go overboard. I'd love to see someone try to make an OUAT family tree, lol!!
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Apr 3, 2014 18:06:26 GMT -8
Since Jester is gonna be gone awhile, I can change up my Etta story. She could always meet up with Sparrow later. Maybe Rumpel has her somehow get on the Jolly Roger to report to him of Hook's plans? Rumpel knows Hook wants revenge so he might want to keep tabs on him while he's busy distracted with important stuff involved with the chain events of the curse.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Apr 3, 2014 18:11:48 GMT -8
It feels like they had to get rid of the actor really quickly and last minute. "Once Upon a Time in Wonderland" is a one-season spinoff. It's so not as good as OUAT. There are two times when they are actually in Storybrooke. The writing leaves much to be desired but I'm happy that Will Scarlett is going to join OUAT after Wonderland ends. Robin Hood was in an ep of Wonderland which makes sense since Will Scarlett is a character from the Robin Hood story.
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Post by Medieval Kevin on Apr 3, 2014 19:14:34 GMT -8
I like the sound of that! but hook needs a bearing, somewhere to direct his efforts... maybe she is offering Killian some false information on rumpel's behalf?
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Post by Storyteller on Apr 3, 2014 19:19:42 GMT -8
My friend drew one up for me as a season premiere present hahahahaha. It's pretty twisted. Anywho- I really don't think Rumpel is Zelena's father. I'm pretty sure Zelena mentioned that she was born before Cora got mixed up with the royals but Cora didn't meet Rumpel until Prince Henry's father locked her away to spin the straw into gold.
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Post by Storyteller on Apr 3, 2014 19:25:13 GMT -8
It really does feel like a last minute decision to write Neal off. But everyone is claiming that it has been in the cards for a while. MRJ said that it was not his decision to leave and that he wasn't 'fired' for trashing a trailer like some crazy fans are spreading around (have ya'll ever seen the nuts over on Twitter? There are some seriously disturbed fanatics over there that constantly harass the cast and crew. Meghan Ory actually cancelled her Twitter account because of it).
Whatever the reason, it was pretty poorly done and I really think that Baelfire- being the reason that the entire basis of the show happened and basically being one of the biggest mysteries of the first season- deserved better.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Apr 4, 2014 9:27:46 GMT -8
It really is a shame Emma isn't here... I loved the kidnapping scene as the first meeting after the hundreds of years ago, when he cut off Hook's hand.
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