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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Jun 2, 2018 17:45:13 GMT -8
4x09 The Shape of Things to Come  Original Air Date: April 24, 2008
Centric: Ben centric
Directed by: Jack Bender
Written by: Brian K. Vaughan & Drew Goddard
Summary: Ben is forced to make a choice as Keamy and his team launch their attack on the Barracks, while a body washes ashore at the beach. (tv.com)
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Jun 3, 2018 17:58:48 GMT -8
5 stars on this one! So freakin' good!
Ben and Charles Widmore face to face. Omg. That was the best thing ever! That scene was incredible. I was totally on Ben's side all like, yah, you tell him!! Then when he said he was gonna kill his daughter, I was like, NO, PENNY!!!!
Dammit. Having trouble rooting for Ben if he's threatening Penny. I'm against anything that gets between Des and Pen!
Poor Alex. That scene was shocking and heartbreaking. Keamy is a monster. Ben has always been the one who wins these strategic mind-chess games but this time, his bluff completely backfired. Michael Emerson's acting was amazing.
What was with his appearance in Tunisia? He's wearing a Dharma jacket. How did he end up there? The translation of what the men on horses said were "Look! There are no footprints around him!" and "Where did he come from? Did he fall from the sky?" He outsmarted them alright. Then when he gets to the hotel, he uses a fake identity and is known as a VIP there. Just how often does the guy travel off island and to that place to be a VIP?? Maybe the few times he has, he spends a lot? Perhaps that's the place he always "lands" when he travels off-island. Apparently, he popped there as if by teleporting. That might explain the skeleton Charlotte was looking at in Tunisia with the Dharma collar around its neck.
Poor Sayid. He finally found Nadia, married her, and then she was killed. Every woman he cares about seems to get killed. No wonder he finally decided his soul is gone and agreed to work with Ben. Remember, he said that "the day I work for Ben is the day I sell my soul"...
Smokey! Smokey made a big comeback. And apparently, Ben can summon it! The hieroglyphics on the chamber door roughly translates to "to summon protection". Oh man, Charles' men really got what they deserved.
I can't wait to watch more! I've been taking less notes as I watch because I've been so engrossed so I'm not remembering everything I mentally note to talk about!
Can't wait to watch more!
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jun 5, 2018 10:00:20 GMT -8
5 stars from me as well!  I thought the same about the Ben and Charles face to face! The bosses met up! I'm totally on Ben's side though, even was, if I wouldn't think he's the most interesting character of the whole show! Well, Desmond actually following right behind! Yes, PENNY! O.O I can understand Ben, but no, please no! Agree! Michael Emerson's acting is so amazing! That scene with his daughter really was heartbreaking... I would like to see Ben taking revenge on Keamy. I really can't stand that guy. Btw, was Alex his real daughter or not? I mean, did we ever found out? I'm not trusting my memory here lol. How Ben outsmarted those men in Tunisia! He really can play the innocent well.  I wonder how long after they made it off the island the Ben/Sayid flashforward takes place. Sayid mentioned having married Nadia eight years ago if I got that right! :-O Yes, Smokey! XD |
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Jun 17, 2018 9:57:33 GMT -8
Btw, was Alex his real daughter or not? I mean, did we ever found out? I'm not trusting my memory here lol. Nope, Ben stole her from Danielle. Danielle mentioned that the Others stole her baby and also, we'd found out when we'd first met her that she was part of an exploration team that shipwrecked there. You'll just have to rewatch the whole show once you finish. I wonder how long after they made it off the island the Ben/Sayid flashforward takes place. Sayid mentioned having married Nadia eight years ago if I got that right! :-O Lol, eight years?? No, nine months. Sayid said that it was the happiest nine months of his life when Nadia was run down. Ben found Sayid during Nadia's funeral so it was nine months after the Oceanic Six came back. |
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jun 19, 2018 8:13:56 GMT -8
Ah okay! Yah, totally will start rewatching the whole show sooner or later, probably sooner.  Hmmm, why the hell was I so damn sure Sayid said something like eight years?? Did he talk about something else have taken place eight years ago? XD Well, never mind, lol. |
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