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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 3, 2019 17:33:26 GMT -8
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 3, 2019 19:00:48 GMT -8
Hey all! Let's hammer out the final details of a more specific timeline. We've established that it'll be set in the future. We need to decide now how far into the future. I'm leaning more toward liking the idea that it's still during Wade and Samantha lifetime, not so far into the future that they've died of old age. I like thinking they'd still be around in the background, not necessarily needing to show them unless someone wants to play them. I was thinking of playing their daughter, maybe around the age of Ariel's character so I can toy with the idea that maybe she attends that college as well. That'll help to keep at least two of the characters in the same general vicinity most of the time. So that would mean around 20ish and I don't picture Wade and Samantha having gone off to have a kid or kids soon after the movie ended. They basically hadn't known each other that long by end of movie. Movie was set in 2045. Wade was 18 and Samantha was 22. If we say they spent the next 5 years dating and adjusting to married life before having a kid or kids, that would put it at 2050 with Wade being 23 and Samantha being 27. So if we fast forward to having a kid that's 20, that'll put it at 2070 with Wade being 43 and Samantha 47. Is everyone okay with 2070, give or take a couple years? Would you prefer Wade and Samantha are even older at this point or does it not really matter to what you had in mind? It's perfectly feasible that they had a kid several years later than that or that my character is the youngest of however many siblings. So far, I've only heard some finer details about Ariel's character, so since I had absolutely no idea what I was thinking for a character, I'd kinda started to brainstorm based off a connection with her character. Everyone else, let me know what you're thinking. It'll help me start forming my own character. Ariel, thanks for volunteering to temp the baddie when needed! Unless someone wants to play the main antagonist full time, he or she is just fine as a background supporting character. It's working out just find that way on X-Men so I don't see how it'll be a problem here!
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Post by Anduin on Feb 4, 2019 8:49:49 GMT -8
I’m fine with that date because I also think Wade and Samantha should be still alive. And I love the idea that you wanted to play their daughter, Heidi. If you two ( Hollywood Heidi Ariel ) are okay with it I also would like my Character visiting that university, but he doesn’t know yours at the beginning. Maybe he’s watching Wades’s daughter from the distance but doesn’t want (or dare) to talk to her. I’ll adhere to the idea of playing the son of a former IOI-member. So he avoids her because of her parents. (Maybe he likes her anyway but doesn’t admit it to himself.) I also can imagine that he could be a spy for our baddie at the beginning of our RPG. But he doesn’t know what this guy/woman terrorizes the people or does something much worse to them. During our Plot my Char should realize what’s really going on, start to help the others and become a real friend of them. But I have another question: What happened to the Real World when we start playing in 2070? How does it look like? If I remember right it wasn’t a nice place to live in in the movie. That was one of the reasons why most of the players joined the Oasis instead of living in reality. Hollywood Heidi Ariel Lady Lee-o The Jester Of Tortuga
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Post by The Jester Of Tortuga on Feb 4, 2019 20:28:36 GMT -8
I'm fine with 2070ish.
The real world was pretty much largely slums unless you were rich. But with Wade and Sam making it that Oasis could only be entered on certain days the world would have probably improved. Most didnt care they were in the slum parks as they had Oasis which is pretty much their life. So now that they have half a week they cant get into it I'd say they'd take steps to impvoe quality of life a bit.
Plus there is also a huge chunk of the population that owed money to IOI and lived and worked within their compounds.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 4, 2019 21:24:10 GMT -8
Good question about how the real world is now, Sharizha! Important that we determine that. Jester basically summed up exactly what I'd gathered from the book and movie. The world did get run down due to overpopulation, not taking care of the planet, etc., but the Oasis came along and things just got worse. Instead of cleaning up and fixing how things had gotten, people just ignored how crappy things had gotten by burying themselves in the Oasis and in so doing, buried themselves in debt to IOI. It was a catch-22 that just left the real world to deteriorate. I also got the impression that with Wade and Samantha now running the Oasis and closing it down half the week, that people started living in the real world again and hence, started to take care of it. I pictured Wade and Samantha using some of their vast fortune in helping that along. Starting the process of getting the Earth cleaned up, providing better and most certainly safer housing. Shutting down the Oasis half the week would also help with peoples' addiction to it and would most likely get them off their asses to maybe find a real world job (rather than practically everyone working in the Oasis) and that having the Oasis closed half the week would also create more jobs. With those days to fill, it would create the opportunity for new businesses to open that cater to real world living, hence more job openings. Rather than just ordering everything over the Oasis and having it delivered right to your door, people would probably be venturing out more to shop, mingle, find other forms of entertainment, etc. At first, maybe to kill time until the Oasis is back open but eventually, I think most people would begin to enjoy venturing out of their homes again. I think over the course of the decades that passed from the movie to our RPG, there'd be a significant improvement. Overcrowding would probably still be a problem. Population seems to be something that just continues to grow. Though with most everyone having spent their lives in the Oasis, it makes you wonder when they ever had the opportunity to get knocked up. XD So that makes me wonder something else. During the time period of the book, it seemed most of the world's population dedicated their lives to the Oasis, not really connecting in real life. Do you think maybe that means population growth slowed? And once the world started to improve and people ventured out again, that people became conscious about overpopulation and started to have less kids? That doesn't mean there wouldn't still be a population problem as it'd be decades before old age started to thin out the herd, but at least they wouldn't be continuing to have to add more and more levels to stacks or to the safer housings that would probably have replaced them over the decades. The Jester Of Tortuga do you know if Oasis and the internet became one and the same? The days Oasis is closed, is there internet for people to access? I don't recall the internet being mentioned at all. It just seemed Oasis was all anyone cared about and they took care of everything they needed--school, work, ordering things--all in the Oasis.
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Post by The Jester Of Tortuga on Feb 4, 2019 22:42:09 GMT -8
It's not really covered in the book, I think the closest it gets is just being a step in the line to Oasis. The first few months of half weeks would have been troublesome with a lot of people more than likely needing support groups, anti depressants/anxiety meds etc as withdrawal would be a huge thing so it would have been rocky for a while. I think the only way it really makes sense is if the greater Oasis is shut down and there is some shallow libraryesque progams one can access for information, though in the book it is also where they go to school and actually learn everything. If I recall correctly Wade's preschool was pretty much going to Seaseme St.
So I think just cold turkey half weeks would have been a dick move, things probably got better but there would have been a downhill period for sure. I mean in terms of doing the real world aspects I think it'd be easier to go with phones that have like a semi virtual library or wikipedia or google for answers. Also in retrospect over the decades they may have Wade and Sam may have loosened up a bit as their goal was to get people to interact in the real world so with that being achieved it could possibly be open back full time or for like a trial period to see if the decades have balanced people out.
Most grew up with the Oasis and it was just what you did but with the new generation being taught differently and in moderation its possible things have changed.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 4, 2019 23:23:49 GMT -8
True that people may have learned about moderation, but I'm leaning toward them maintaining the closer. Maybe cut back by one day, but that's it. It's just that something like the Oasis is so all consuming that it's so easy for people to quickly spiral back into living in it rather than the real world. Look at how people are with their cell phones. There used to be a time when people made eye contact with each other, said 'hi' or simply smiled. There also used to be a ton more friendly small talk of you happen to be standing and waiting alongside someone or walking the same direction as someone. Now when people are waiting or walking or hell, doing anything at all, they usually have their face in their phone at the same time. Nowadays, it seems the only time strangers every talk is to say 'excuse me' or 'sorry' when they walk into you cuz they were looking at their damn phone.
Sorry, bit of a tangent there, but my point is, if that's what it's like with the internet access we have now always at our fingertips, I can't even imagine what it would be like if we had something like the Oasis. It's just too strong of a drug to not keep the place closed at least once a week. But I vote that they keep it the same decades later during our RPG; closed two days a week.
As far as how tech is outside of Oasis, I'm fine with saying it's much like it is now in our world, with devices people can carry around and devices at home. Access to an internet database, sites, games, videos, etc. Only that it's not virtual or completely immersive like the Oasis is. I don't picture that the Oasis and/or Halliday took over or removed the internet. That, in itself, is a huge thing. I think I'm picturing that it kinda ended up getting more and more ignored as people were absorbed more and more into the Oasis. It's like, why play Pong when you can play the high tech video games they have now? Why watch a VHS on an old tiny box TV and its speakers when you can watch a 4K on a 4K TV attached to a surround sound system? But with the Oasis down those two days, it's something to fall back on for information you need during that time or to socialize through, etc.
I'm not opposed to random special events like once a year. Maybe Wade decided to have some sort of contest or games in honor of Halliday's egg hunt. Something that only lasts a couple weeks or a month, tops. Maybe it's during one of those special events that our villain is striking. Perhaps taking out people who get on the leaderboard? Or maybe he/she totally takes over the special event with his/her own tasks that must be completed to avoid another victim. It could lead to a reason for the Oasis to have to stay open if the villain threatens to keep killing/kill more frequently if his/her games are interrupted.
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Post by The Jester Of Tortuga on Feb 5, 2019 3:41:16 GMT -8
I love the idea of a villain forcing it to stay open lest his games become the killing kind.
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Post by Lady Lee-o on Feb 5, 2019 7:28:24 GMT -8
I'm happy going with the majority on this, as I have yet to see Ready Player One yet, I plan to do so soon. I'll be working the next four days and I was thinking of checking the electronic section and grabbing a copy to watch.
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Post by Ariel on Feb 6, 2019 21:13:13 GMT -8
I agree with the timeline set in the future and with the Oasis closed two days a week to let people live and to keep the world in better shape than what it used to be. That way, if we have characters near each other or even in the same location, it would give our characters an opportunity to cross paths or even meet up IRL.
I like the idea of the bad guy taking over the Oasis annual games to make it his/her own. He could target certain players and gain intel on their IRL lives and blackmail them into competing. The losing result could be a threat to murder or harm the players. It would be cool for the game to turn into something where they all end up working together to try and save one another, like an escape room or puzzle game of some sort.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 6, 2019 22:07:28 GMT -8
Looks like we're all getting on the same page! Seems several of us will have a character at a college. Now we have to figure out where. Halliday's and now Wade's company, Gregarious Simulation Systems, which produces and operates the OASIS, is located in Columbus, Ohio. At least it was during Halliday's time. I don't picture that that's changed as running something so huge would need a lot of hardware. So that means that Wade and Samantha life in the general vicinity of Columbus, Ohio. Now that doesn't necessarily mean that their daughter (my potential character) has to go to a college near there. She could have gone off to anywhere. If we want our characters to be able to easily go to GSS for some reason then we can pick a college in that area. There's lots of them. Or we can also make one up. Halliday University or Morrow University in honor of either of the two creators of the Oasis, James Halliday and Ogden Morrow? Besides Columbus, OH, does anyone have any ideas for good locations to center our characters around?
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Post by Ariel on Feb 7, 2019 9:50:54 GMT -8
I would be open to the idea of naming the school Halliday University in Columbus, my character could come from afar to attend the school hence his stay in the dorms.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 7, 2019 10:16:11 GMT -8
I’ve been thinking it over since posting that and I also think it’s a good idea to create a made-up college. I don’t know if it would randomly be a problem for a college if we start using their name and images. So we can go with Halliday University or Ogden University and use mix and match images from whatever school looking grounds we want.
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Post by Lady Lee-o on Feb 12, 2019 8:48:20 GMT -8
As you know, those who are apart of the FB chat- I finished Ready Player One last night and OMG i'm excited for this! I'm on board with everything that has been talked about. I agree about the conditions of the world and how the population is probably still overcrowded but getting better. And how the world has been healing since it's neglect.
In fact, I was thinking my character could be a landlord for a section of the city. Still undecided but playing with ideas currently.
I know Ariel said she was willing to temp-play a baddie but I can take the task if everyone wants. My character or character's family could have had a dark web business of some kind. Maybe some kind of dark web faction like IoI but more dastardly lol? Then Wade, Samantha, and friends took it down during some kind of clean up? Possibly causing his/hers parents death (either they took their own lives or a raid gone wrong), which sets my character on revenge and a serious dark twisted path... not that my character would be sane before lol.
I also like the idea of the baddie taking over some annual games, like he/she had been planning it for a while. Blackmailing and creating a faction, saying if they lose- he/she would take everything from them in the Oasis and RL.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 12, 2019 10:01:04 GMT -8
Lee-o, your idea sounds fantastic! If you’d like to make your character the baddie, by all means, go for it! Ariel was just stepping up with the baddie idea we’d kinda formed cuz we didn’t have a baddie yet and it’s just no fun without one!
Let me know if you wanna toss more ideas around! How old’s he gonna be? Possible he goes to that same college? Or someone older? Let us know if you’d like help bouncing around ideas!
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Post by Ariel on Feb 12, 2019 22:00:22 GMT -8
Feel free to take on the baddie, Leeo Your idea sounds great!! I know lots of people (young people specifically) have a fascination with the "dark web" these days, so I could definitely see some of the university students falling prey to your baddie out of "curiosity". My character may also become intrigued like his fellow peers, but continues to steer clear of the unknown.
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Post by The Jester Of Tortuga on Feb 13, 2019 3:15:20 GMT -8
So I was thinking of doing a character who runs this virtual world that is basically a theme park/circus during which peoples Avatars are deleted leaving people in the real world with side effects like blindness, brain damage, muscle and tissue issues.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 13, 2019 7:42:06 GMT -8
Sounds like the type to totes be working with Lee-‘o’s baddy! Why don’t the two of you coordinate? 😊
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Post by Lady Lee-o on Feb 13, 2019 8:15:20 GMT -8
That would be amazing The Jester Of Tortuga I love that idea for your baddie. We should defiantly come up with some kind of alliance between them. I can see my guy coming to yours and be like, "I have another one for you."
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 13, 2019 11:41:43 GMT -8
Was thinking over Jester’s great creepy idea but wondering how those sorts of damages could occur to a person via virtual word? Unless he somehow switches out their equipment with stuff built to do that kind of damage to a person. What if he hunts and tracks down his prey using virtual world, possibly starts mentally messing with them there, but then snatches them and dumps them into something he’d set up for them in the real world? Kinda like “big deal, your fake self deals with fake world challenges without real consequence if you win or lose, let’s see how you do when the stakes actually matter”.
With the state of the world, I’m sure there’s a lot of abandoned, desolate areas now that we’ve said Wade has set up safer housing. So the baddies could have some great “playground areas” to set up creepy real world scenarios that maybe mirror what they first drew the person’s avatar into. Like some nightmare come to life.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 13, 2019 15:23:33 GMT -8
Just realized another thing we should all decide on. What two days a week the Oasis is closed. I’m pretty sure it would be a set two days and not some randomly picked two days a week. I’m thinking Sunday and Monday. That’ll make it one day that’s weekend and one day that’s a weekday. Figured if it’s just two weekdays, it wouldn’t be as big of a deal cuz the work day would make those two days go fast and by having one weekend day, it’ll get people to pick up other hobbies or forms of entertainment more likely than if they were only missing out on the handful of hours left after a school or work day.
It also doesn’t necessarily have to be consecutive days. Maybe Sunday’s and Wednesday’s?
I’m totally open to your thoughts and ideas. I’m not ironclad set on that. Just my input and thoughts on why I chose those two days. 😊
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Post by The Jester Of Tortuga on Feb 13, 2019 18:43:15 GMT -8
So my reasoning behind real world effects was that it the movie showed suits, gloves, glasses etc which enable feedback allowing the user to feel what they feel in Oasis. They probably do have regulators or something like that in them so when people get shot they probably feel a slight pinch or something akin to that. BUT it is all just computer programs and they can be hacked, changed, given viruses.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 13, 2019 19:16:40 GMT -8
Ah I see. That would mean only the people well off enough who could afford the fancy gear could be victims. Unless some victims “won” them? Are you wanting to stick with virtual attacks only? No real world stuff?
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Post by The Jester Of Tortuga on Feb 13, 2019 20:33:39 GMT -8
I mean they have to have some degree of of them to get into the Oasis. Depending on what Leeo does there may always be a way my character could find out what they have or something. I mean just having an avatar deleted isnt exactly huge stakes.
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Post by Lady Lee-o on Feb 13, 2019 20:40:10 GMT -8
I'm still piecing together my guy, So I don't know much about him yet. But I like the idea of hacking suit's and having them cause damage, that would be a cool feature. I can see my guy sending his "Team" a bunch of suit's for that reason. Maybe getting your guy to hack into them so he can control/punish his little minions. The Jester Of Tortuga
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 13, 2019 22:18:30 GMT -8
Well yes, you've gotta have some kind of gear to get into the Oasis, but a lot of people aren't very well off. Look at Wade's Oasis equipment at the beginning. He just had the visor and some gloves. Very, very low tech. I don't think there's much harm you'd be able to do to a person on that kind of equipment and I got the impression that a majority of the people in the world were pretty much poor and stuck with low tech stuff. Having an avatar deleted isn't really stakes at all and I never suggesting that. I was suggesting, like we talked about in the sign-up threads, some kind of villain messing with/attacking a person both in the Oasis AND in real life, perhaps as a dark version of Halliday's games. So people can't think they're safe simply by avoiding using the Oasis. And if anyone tries to avoid the Oasis, real life threats or scares can force them back into the Oasis. I do really like your idea of attacking people via their equipment, which could totally be your character's thing, The Jester Of Tortuga. What I'm saying is that maybe there needs to be more than just attacked via Oasis. Real life stuff happening. Maybe that's where your character can come in, Lady Lee-o? Sounds like your guy is gonna be the head honcho villain and like you said, your person and Jester's can form an alliance. Are you guys not liking the idea of real life bad stuff happening? I keep trying to ask about it being a part of it, not instead of Oasis attacks, but for some reason, Nick, I feel like you keep circling back to assuming I'm saying I'm not liking attacks via Oasis equipment and I'm not getting an answer on the real life stuff. Just saying that making it only equipment attacks really limits the possibilities.
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Post by The Jester Of Tortuga on Feb 13, 2019 22:44:12 GMT -8
It just sounded like you were questioning the how side of it, not in a bad way just the curious way and I had thought up something. My line of thinking was for those who are poor and only have the basics of like gloves and glasses having your hands damaged so you cant play properly or worse being blinded so you can never see the Oasis again would be devastating.
To me that aspect is more interesting and evil than just doing something in the real world. Taking someones perfection and fantasy that is present on a silver platter that is always just out of their reach is some cold shit.
That is what I was thinking, sorry if I didn't explain it all that well. I wasn't suggesting it was just having their avatar deleted and that'd be the stakes but I can see how that came across. I was trying to do both at the same time, if you wanna do something happens in Oasis then in the real world that is cool, just doesn't interest me as much but I can change the character up if thats the route everyone prefers.
If that makes sense.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 13, 2019 23:14:39 GMT -8
Gotcha. No, you're totally cool to have your guy only attacking that way via Oasis. Could be his specialty/fixation/what gets his psycho self off. I was suggesting that Lee-o's guy could be doing the real world hurtin' on top of that, if she'd like. People who her character feels need to be punished even beyond that up to and including death. She was saying something about her character having a grudge and targeting specific people. The sinister as hell gif she was sending me gave me the impression of a dude who gets off on a variety of prolonged, extensive torture until he gets bored with his prey. XD
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Post by The Jester Of Tortuga on Feb 13, 2019 23:50:26 GMT -8
Ooooh I'm wit chu now.
I am sure they people that we have in mind would add to it being a stark contrast too.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Feb 14, 2019 10:05:22 GMT -8
Wanted to elaborate on Journey and her parentage. As I said in my bio, Wade and Samantha wanted her to have a normal childhood so it’s not publicly/widely known that Journey’s their kid. Not that people couldn’t find out. I kinda pictured it as something she doesn’t go around announcing and people don’t make the connection that much cuz it’s been a couple decades since the games and though the last name Watts isn’t crazy common, it’s also not unique. I figured the fanfare around Wade and Samantha would have drastically dwindled and that original Gunters from last generation might be the ones to more easily make the connection as well as maybe the new generation of Gunters who are fans of some old pop culture game that happened, excitement about it probably passed on from big time Gunter parents. I kinda imagined that Wade and Samantha to the regular crowd and newest generation are just some owners of a big business and that newer generation might not know much about them. For example, how many companies can you yourself name the owners of or would recognize if you saw them? For me, very few. 😆 If anything, hearing their name might evoke a “that name sounds kinda familiar” sort of feel. So Anduin, if Ray figured it out, that’s perfectly fine. Or maybe he wonders and asks. Or he did his own research and solved it or is pretty sure he’s right. 😊 Just wanted to be sure it’s not something that’s seen as common knowledge around campus. If it ends up becoming that, that’s fine! Just don’t wanna start it off that way. More interesting for her to have to deal with it as something that blows up, if it even does.
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