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Post by Storyteller on Jan 8, 2018 19:43:22 GMT -8
We shouldn't need much, if anything, of a time jump between where we are and going back to Woodbury. Lori is about ready to pop at this point (Judith was born in the fourth episode of season three). I think we already did the time jump we'd talked about, right? Between our first brush with Woodbury and now?
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Post by Lady Lee-o on Jan 9, 2018 19:18:27 GMT -8
I'm fine with whatever you all decided! and Ilona, I fixed up the Javier post- since I was distracted when writing it lol DarkSideCookie
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Feb 9, 2018 17:28:46 GMT -8
Heyho! We were talking about plots between characters and that I would like to build up the friendship between Daryl and Beth. So, the latest events made me think of her eventually coming to him to ask him for private fighting lessons, once things have calmed a little that is. I think Carol would want to get fighting lessons as well. Maybe her and Beth are talking about it at some point just like out of a conversation and they both go to Daryl as for that? What do you guys think? Medieval Kevin Lady Lee-o
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Feb 9, 2018 17:50:30 GMT -8
Or Beth asks Daryl on her own and Carol surprises them on one of their training lessons eventually, as she randomly finds them? Could be more interesting I think. Well, if you like that idea in the first place that is.
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Post by Lady Lee-o on Feb 10, 2018 7:18:25 GMT -8
I'm fine with Carol learning a bit of hand to hand because she wants to defend herself. I'm happy with either idea! Medieval Kevin DarkSideCookie
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Feb 12, 2018 7:43:48 GMT -8
Hey walkers I feel like our RPG finally starts rolling again! We had some more or less chaotic discussions going here, so I feel like we need to clarify some things lol. There was this talk about Ingrid taking Judith once she is born. Okay, seems you can forget about that after I talked to Ariel again. That plot idea of Ingrid was before she had recreated her background story with Negan becoming part of it. Now Ingrid is a savior and belongs to Negan. So I think the new idea is that she's currently escaped from Woodbury (totally down for playing that out in a flashback btw, as we have the Governor and Merle around there!) where she had been captured. So now she's looking for any sort of way to either contact or get back to Negan. For additions or any mistakes on my part, feel free to help out, Ariel! I know we have some people around who don't like Negan a lot haha, but don't worry, I've no intention to play things out like in the show! I think though a meeting on their way should happen eventually. But here comes my suggestion as for making it different: As Ingrid is not only a savior but also Negan's last family on earth she is really important to him and he would do any effort to bail her out of any trouble. He also would want to get revenge on her captors in Woodbury. I always loved the idea of a meeting between Walking Dead's greatest villains (especially after I saw Jeffrey and David together in a scene at the show The Extant lol)! So how about a boss to boss at some point?? I imagine actually none of them really dominating the other, as they both are two very confident man who knows what they want and how to get it, but then in a totally different way. I think that could be real fun! And I had a neat thought in addition! How about they once had met pre-apocalypse?! Either clashed with each other or even got along well actually. Like not have known each other, but strangers who once crossed paths. I somehow prefer the second. Kind of a casual conversation between them, maybe with Lucille as Negan's recently married wife been with them too. Something like a couple conversation even by happenstance. Sorry, my mind comes up with pictures, before I even know your opinion about that lol. I just think that could add a funny atmosphere to a first encounter! And even a possibility for a flashback scene pre-apocalypse?? What do you think? Rick and his group are going to travel back to Woodbury, right? Ingrid wouldn't want that, but do you think she would accompany them anyway, Ariel? Maybe she thinks she can get revenge herself with the help of them? Or just that Negan might have found out about her captors and she would get a chance to go back home with him? Just ideas. Either Negan could be already there when Rick and the others arrive or make his appearance after they are already there. I'd be fine either way, though I think it could be more fun to let Negan appear after. There wouldn't break out a war between him and Rick like in the show, as long as they are just members (even of only obviously) of a community Negan wouldn't fight injudicious. But I think this could become an epic get together of almost all of our characters in one place!!! The Rick group, the Governor, Merle, Javier (as part of Negan's team), Ingrid and even Andrea (if you like, Amelia)! As the Ingrid takes Rick's baby plot has become obsolete, I still would be down for a plot regarding Judith once she's born. No special ideas for that yet though. But I somehow liked the thought of someone really pisses Rick off by kidnapping his baby. XD Okay, by now I'll wait for your guy's opinion about my ideas anyway. And sorry for this long text lol. Medieval Kevin Storyteller Ariel Lady Lee-o
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Post by Ariel on Feb 12, 2018 9:37:42 GMT -8
Thanks for the post Ilona, much appreciated that you took the time to hash all of that out for us !! I thought in addition that I would add a little bit of background story on Ingrid's captors and how they would come to Woodbury. So I would imagine the captors to be apart of one of the smaller communities run by Negan. I imagine their community to be called The Ranch where it would be a community of small town folk living on the best soil around, soil that would grow Negan crops of a varieties. Anyways, somehow the leader of the community would wrong Negan extensively, leaving him no choice but to take the leader's wife back to the Sanctuary. In an attempt to retrieve the leaders wife, the entire community goes to the sanctuary to raid the place but fail as most of them get killed. All except for the leader himself and a tiny handful of whomever is left who manage to knock Ingrid out and take her captive. The group is too small to fight again, and fear if they return back home that Negan would come after them. So with Ingrid as their prisoner, they set out on a long journey on the road which leads them all the way to Woodbury. I would imagine the Governor welcomes them in and adopts them into their community and after they tell him about Negan and the saviors that he would isolate Ingrid until a decision is come as to what to do with her. Ingrid escapes her confinement, escapes Woodbury and tries to either figure a way back to Negan or a way to contact him. Until the situation at the prison happens and runs into Rick and family. I would think that Ingrid tries to persuade the group not to go to Woodbury but Rick is too intrigued by the idea of getting his family to safety. I would think that she might tell Rick her story, of these bad people who had kidnapped her from her home and Woodbury are listening to their lies about how she is dangerous. After Rick not seeing her as a threat, he might think that he can talk to the governor and come to some sort of agreement about her, all the while she is still finding a way to contact or get back to Negan. Rick won't know about Negan and the saviors until he gets to Woodbury. I'm still stuck on how she would get word back to Negan on her location to bring him to Woodbury though. Maybe he's already tracked down where they had gone? He's a guy with connections after all. DarkSideCookie Medieval Kevin Storyteller Lady Lee-o
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Feb 12, 2018 10:07:34 GMT -8
All additions are sounding awesome to me!! Sounds pretty much Negan lol! I came up with an additional idea too after I've read your message. How about Ingrid saves Carl's life at some point before he had made the decision to try helping her out in Woodbury. I know Rick anyway would want to go there and probably take care of that but could draw a stronger bond between him and Ingrid. What do you think? Oh! I actually had assumed Negan to track down where they had gone by himself. As you said, connections. Also, I think it will be even more interesting to play out Ingrid's and Negan's remeet without her knowing she was searching for him. Would show her once again that he cares for his people, especially for Lucille's little sister. Okay, maybe now it's on time to give the others a chance to read all this haha
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Post by Ariel on Feb 12, 2018 12:48:43 GMT -8
Ingrid saving Carl's life would definitely solidify a good standing in Ricks books, I like it! And as for Negan already having a plan in tracking her down works so good! She will be so occupied with trying to find a way to get word to him, and then he'll show up to her rescue (and for some revenge ) love it!!
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Feb 18, 2018 22:32:51 GMT -8
Yes!!! There is just one thing! We planned on Ingrid and Negan had separated after Lucille's dead I'm the hospital, as he left her with her sister's turned body (y'know, that was how he was weak ). Maybe he had ended up with Ingrid at first and is with her when Negan meet them back some weeks later? I need Ariel's input for that though. Ariel
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Feb 18, 2018 22:33:51 GMT -8
SHE handed ended up with Ingrid I meant of course*
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Feb 18, 2018 22:34:10 GMT -8
had ended up* damn auto correct
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Post by Ariel on Feb 18, 2018 22:38:41 GMT -8
First of all - this character sounds totally badass! I look forward to having Ingrid rp with the new savoir in town . Hmm, I'm unfortunately still pretty stuck on them separating and having them go their separate ways as this is how Ingrid will realize that she needs Negan to survive. I would be open for Ingrid and Nora to cross paths before meeting Negan once more. Or perhaps Nora comes across Negan and joins him right before they meet Ingrid again?
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Feb 18, 2018 22:52:54 GMT -8
That was what I thought too!! Nora totally could meet up with Negan in the hospital actually, helping him to fight the walkers. I imagine Negan being the leader of a very small group of three or four people when he meets Ingrid again some weeks later
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Feb 18, 2018 22:53:33 GMT -8
Maybe she asks about Ingrid and Negan's reaction makes her think she would be dead.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Feb 18, 2018 23:03:55 GMT -8
Oh maybe Nora even saves Negan's life there, as he is pretty much distracted with the shit that had just happened, loosing his wife and finding himself a coward?
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Post by Kristi Lynne on Feb 19, 2018 7:46:45 GMT -8
Thanks, guys! And yeah, I don't want to interrupt whatever plans you already have in place for Ingrid and Negan, just add a supporting player. DarkSideCookie Ariel
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Post by Storyteller on Mar 5, 2018 12:52:59 GMT -8
Hey guys- unfortunately I'm going to have to give up my Walking Dead characters. I am just finding it increasingly hard to get motivated for them and, in turn, it is making it more difficult for me to post for my other characters. I already let Heidi know so she can start the deactivation process. I'm really sorry if it messes up anyone's plans!
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Mar 5, 2018 12:59:19 GMT -8
Hey Amelia, It's totally okay and no need for apologizes (I always do myself, I know XD). Even if it's a pity to lose you on this, I'm glad you've made a decision and let us know. Please feel always free to talk about kind of things and everything else too.
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Post by Ariel on Mar 10, 2018 9:39:22 GMT -8
Alright guys, let' get the ball rolling at the prison!! Ingrid will wait for Rick to react again before making another post. In the meantime, is there anyone I can temp play for to help the scene along? Where is everyone at in regards to posting for this scene? DarkSideCookie Lady Lee-o Medieval Kevin
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Mar 10, 2018 9:47:13 GMT -8
I was actually waiting for the others to post before another Rick post, but now where Amelia has dropped out, there's no need to wait for her characters at least. I'm still not sure if Kevin is going to drop out as well (talked to Amelia via FB as for that but didn't get a statement from Kevin yet). With both of them dropping out, we would need to discuss again where to head and with which characters on board. I really hope he'll come online this weekend. Ariel Lady Lee-o Medieval Kevin
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Post by Ariel on Mar 10, 2018 9:56:55 GMT -8
Okay that's fair let me know if I can help in any way!
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Post by Medieval Kevin on Mar 11, 2018 14:35:54 GMT -8
okay I saw early on on the discussion that Ingrid was abducted and taken to virginia. if thats an old idea then never mind my comment but if that was part of her being taken to woodbury just wanted to point out that woodbury is much farther, they are in georgia.
Otherwise if shes with that fleeing group of negans enemies and they just stumble across woodbury then they have wandered a really long distance. Is negan going to be able to track them by himself all the way there? just asking because Ilona you mentioned he does it personally. And that would mean he is in georgia now too in the present time? let me know if I'm missing anything :-)
Besides all that I'm cool with having a future run in with negan and the governor. I was actually going to have something like that happen between the governor and nates gangs until i decided to go a different route with nate. so that could be interesting if it fits.
Finally i would love to have Daryl training Beth if she wanted it, like I said a while back, he is going to need all the help he can get for not leaving Ricks group and striking out on his own. because he is going to absolutely hate it in woodbury
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Post by Ariel on Mar 11, 2018 14:39:34 GMT -8
I had thought about that and figured the remainder of the group would have traveled as far from the sanctuary as possible to start their new life with Ingrid held captive out of vengence, so it would have been a journey that would have lasted them for weeks until they stumbled on Woodbury. Then Ingrid makes her escape and runs into Rick and Co.
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Post by Medieval Kevin on Mar 11, 2018 14:48:03 GMT -8
makes sense, i was wondering more for how negan would have been able to keep tabs on them unless she was leaving some sort of breadcrumb trail so to speak
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Post by Ariel on Mar 11, 2018 14:49:32 GMT -8
As for Negan, I would assume he would have connections near and far, it would be cool to imagine him having connections all the way over by the Woodbury area. Not sure if it is realistic but would be neat and would make things interesting for everyone.
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Post by Ariel on Mar 11, 2018 14:50:21 GMT -8
And good point Kevin! Perhaps there is some sort of breadcrumb she leaves along the way for him, i like that idea.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Mar 11, 2018 15:02:14 GMT -8
I think connections all around the area would explain it. In the show he seems to know almost every larger community. Besides, this search for her would take him quite a while and happens not during days or something.
I definitely like the idea of Ingrid leaving some sort of breadcrumb on their way. Could be interesting if, whatever breadcrumbs that would be, someone of the group sees her leaving them at one point. Some chance for causing a little trouble inside the group lol.
I'm so glad you're in for the idea of a meeting between the bosses! Have you also read my idea as for the Governor and Negan might have met once before the apocalypse? I thought that would be a neat extra. XD Just if you like.
Yes! I so need a plot for Beth, especially now where her sister isn't around anymore, well, with no one around playing her that is. I think Beth would hate it in Woodbury too, so definitely a way to build a stronger realionship between the two of them. Also, I thought Carol could join in their training at some point.
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Post by Medieval Kevin on Mar 11, 2018 15:30:41 GMT -8
That's cool if carol joins in too, love triangle! lmao but anyway it just seemed that there isn't as many survivor groups down south in Georgia as there is around Washington DC, on the show at least. Negan does seem to know a lot about larger communities in his area but with so much dead space (literally) between him and Woodbury I was trying to imagine how he would know they were down there. nobodies telling stories. Even Daryl lost Beth's trail when she was abducted on the show and that was a much smaller distance. It was pure luck that they found that hospital and then ran into Noah. Ingrid leaving him a trail would explain everything and set the stage for their showdown though, even if her captors try and stop her from doing it. I agree I think that would be some interesting conflict.
My next question, you said he isn't going to find her overnight that it will take time, cause it is a long way away. That makes sense, but when he does find out the way she was taken, is he going to bring his saviors south with him? cause if he goes all that way there isn't going to be any way he can still control them while he is gone. the people hes made enemies of up north would take advantage of his absence. but if he brought his men south and set up new bases in georgia, well that would be very interesting when the time came for him and the governor to go against each other. And yes I did see that mention of them having met before. I'd be interested in talking about it sure. I don't have any idea's off the top of my head. were you thinking anything in particular?
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Mar 11, 2018 16:05:55 GMT -8
And I had a neat thought in addition! How about they once had met pre-apocalypse?! Either clashed with each other or even got along well actually. Like not have known each other, but strangers who once crossed paths. I somehow prefer the second. Kind of a casual conversation between them, maybe with Lucille as Negan's recently married wife been with them too. Something like a couple conversation even by happenstance. Sorry, my mind comes up with pictures, before I even know your opinion about that lol. I just think that could add a funny atmosphere to a first encounter! And even a possibility for a flashback scene pre-apocalypse?? What do you think? Hahaha yah, totally the love triangle. XD Daryl gets his own harem lol. I see the problem with Negan travelling that far. Hm but I like your idea of him taking his most important men with him to get something like a new base in the south. He already has several places to rule with their own leaders working for him, so it would make sense, if he makes someone the leader of the Sanctuary to take care of. It probably would be hard for him to leave the Sanctuary behind, but he could get the thought of find a new place, until he eventually plans on going back. Actually that's in the stars anyway, as we're going totally off-canon here, which I do appreciate. I already had little neat ideas as for a potential pre-apocalypse meeting between the Governor and Negan. Posted the quote of my mention from before to make it easier, in case you overread. I'm open for anything else though!
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