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Post by Anduin on Nov 9, 2019 1:19:00 GMT -8
I wanted to create Nightcrawler's Bio but got a problem with his age. I'm sorry but I'm still a bit confused because of the date the RPG is settled in. I've read it takes place in 1975. But how could Jean Grey e.g. be at the age of 18 when she was Born in 1967? ( xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Jean_Grey ) ( xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Nightcrawler ) Or did you all refer to another data source? If so could you please give me a link?
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Nov 9, 2019 6:38:13 GMT -8
Erik is at Maeve's house right now (hopefully without a shirt lol XD), but Logan would be free. Just I have no idea how that could work. He's at the school right now.
Hm well, he haven't really settled in there yet and still feeling more like a loner, so he also could take a walk somewhere to be alone. But just that you know, Mystique would recognize him while he doesn't because of his amnesia. Do you think we could come up with something between them? I'm also open to any ideas from anyone else regarding a good plot. Anduin
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Post by Anduin on Nov 9, 2019 8:41:14 GMT -8
DarkSideCookieI think something like that could work. It was Mystique who had Rescue Logan if I remember right. So maybe she was looking for him for a while because she wants to know what became of him.
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Post by Kristi Lynne on Nov 9, 2019 8:56:28 GMT -8
Well, in our little story here, it was Maeve who allowed Logan to escape the facility at Alkali Lake. One of many mutants that she helped during her tenure at Trask Industries. He owed her a favor, he helped break out Erik, and now they're square.
I think as far as the younger ones' ages, we're referring to the beginning of "X-Men: Apocalypse." No particular grade in mind, but it does seem that Jean, Scott, Nightcrawler, and Jubilee are all around the same age. They're all living at the school, attending classes together, and hanging out at the mall.
There could be a reason for Mystique to seek out Charles. Seeking help with the mutant resistance, trying to track down someone who runs mutant fighting rings....?
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Post by Anduin on Nov 9, 2019 12:29:03 GMT -8
Ah, okay. Thx for the update. ^^ As I already said I'm not up to date with everything that happens before in the RPG. But yes, she could have other reasons why she searched for Logan. Maybe she wanted to rescue him once but had to notice that he already was. Referring to Nightcrawler: What do you guys think - would it better to let him already live at the School? Or do you prefer if he just meet the XMen for the first time? [Well, of course, I had to create his Request-to-join first xD But I would know better what to add in this Bio if I know how he would be involved to the XMen.] Kristi Lynne DarkSideCookie Hollywood Heidi Ariel Lady Lee-o The Jester Of Tortuga
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Nov 9, 2019 13:08:49 GMT -8
Actually, I think Mystique still could have been the one who rescued him, out of that river I mean. In my Logan bio... ("Eventually a man called Stryker (which was actually a mutant in disguise) rescued him and took custody of him, though Logan left in the same night after intense nightmares came over him.") ...I said that after that he had spent a while with Kayla, a woman he had a relationship with in the first Wolverine movie, eventually met with the real Stryker at Trask where he had agreed in a dubious procedure to allegedly increase his powers to get back his memory. Instead, the experiments worsened his amnesia though. He managed to escape with the rather passive help of Maeve for he didn't know that she had helped him before they had met each other in our RPG. That's basically what had happened to Logan since then but feel free to read over my bio, especially the last paragraphs. As for Nightcrawler: I'd be fine if he already is at the school but waiting for others to respond to that as well.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Nov 9, 2019 15:21:50 GMT -8
From the movies that take place after our RPG, I get the impression that Kurt has been with them for awhile. But then again, stuff happening after is not canon so if you're really wanting to tweak that, you probably could. In my mind, though, like one or two others have said, I think we got the feeling he was already there but we've never made mention to him as nobody has temped him and none of the players with characters have interacted with him within their own posts. As for his age, like I said, the movies really messed up with timing. I agree with Kristi that I get the impression Kurt is around the same age as Jean and the group who all hang out (younger people tend to hang out with people at or around their age). As for Raven, like Ilona said, we last saw her in the movie in the guise of Stryker. It was like she was one the one who actually took Logan to Alkali Lake. I don't think they ever told us why. I assumed/got the impression that it was because she knew it was important for the future that Logan get that Adamantium coating on his skeletal system. Though I couldn't figure how she'd know that. Raven and Charles seemed to have parted ways at the end of Days of Future Past. I have no idea not only why, but for how long she posed as Stryker. Maybe she was at the facility when Logan broke out? Maybe the only reason she steps back into the mansion is because she knows Logan is there and wants to keep an eye on him to be sure things go according to how they should? Again, that would mean figuring out how she even knows how things are supposed to play out. She definitely couldn't have still been parading around as Stryker at Alkali in current game time because current game time, Stryker was still Maeve's boss over at Trask Industries until Roderick took over just a few short days ago. For a second, I was thinking, omg, what if this whole time, Maeve's boss had been Raven disguised as Stryker? But then remembered that Trask has mutant detectors set up throughout the building like motion detectors. I mean, IF we wanted to do that, we could pull it off. She'd just have had to have been wearing one of those bracelets the whole time she was in the Trask building, like the one Victor Creed had to wear when he was called in to meet with Stryker. Could have been easily hidden beneath the business suit. I'm actually kinda liking that idea now. Could explain why Roderick felt Stryker wasn't doing a job up to Roderick's standards if it was actually a mutant this whole time also working against Roderick, the Purifiers, and everything Trask Industries has ever stood for. I'll leave that decision up to you. I'm actually fine either way with it but will stop going on and on until we know what direction you'd like to go.
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Post by Anduin on Nov 10, 2019 0:24:59 GMT -8
Okay, I'm trying to face up to those movies-mistakes concerning the timeline. Normally I persnickety try my best to comply with time lines. °^^ Nightcrawler:Since some of you said that it felt like he would probably already been at the school, I choose that version. But I found an interesting Story that I really like. ^^ It's from a Comic Nightcrawler-version (There's also an unspoken explanation within why Kurt is such religious.) [ marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Kurt_Wagner_(Earth-616) ] I like the idea that it was Charles who saved Kurt and took him to his school. And - what about the idea that Charles and Raven once had a big controversy which made Raven leave him for a while. That could be the time when she got to know Azazel while also trying to have a normal life. (referring to the first line in the quote) But it didn't work and so she went back to Charles while she thought her son was dead. She never told anybody about him except Charles, but not until a few years had passed. And she begged him to keep it secret. Charles gave her his promise but also - behind her back - started to search for her son. He didn't want to believe that the baby died. (It was a Mutant - and Charles knew that mutants are much stronger than humans. I think it would fit to his character if he just WANTED to believe Raven's son had to be still alive! ^^) One day he found him with the help of Cerebo and kept an eye on him from that day on. Of Course, he didn't reveal it to Raven. He told her about her son being alive only when he had rescued him and brought him to his school. (That would be just a few years or month ago in our RPG timeline I think. ^^) Raven/Mystique:Hollywood Heidi , I also like your idea of Mystique living in disguise as Stryker for a while. ^^ Concerning the Sentinel program - I've read that it was cancelled after it was a Mutant (Raven) who saved the president. So they didn't have those Mutant detectors, or not? Otherwise we should go with your suggestion that she had worn those bracelets. But how could we manage that Logan-Stryker-Problem? I don't think Raven would have done such Experiments to her former friend. Does anyone have an idea how the real Stryker could have act like that even when he wasn't at Trask Industries? What if Raven threatened him and blew him off instead of killing him. (After saving the president and being called as a hero by people she probably won't kill a man if she also could scare him away…) The real Stryker could have had a secret laborytory where he and some confidantes still worked on their own experiments. And Logan faces the real Stryker - in our version not at Trask but at his own secret lab. What do you think? I'm open for critique and suggestions. ^^
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Nov 10, 2019 11:11:32 GMT -8
Hey lady! Okay, I read this last night and before responding, did some researching, movie plot discussing, and RPG plot discussing.
Mystique being Kurt's mother just doesn't work in the movieverse. Mystique never left Charles' side until Future Past. They made a big deal about that in the movies. It affected Charles when Mystique took off on her own as she'd never done that and they'd always stuck together since she showed up in his kitchen when they were little.
Secondly, I'm scratching my idea that Stryker may have been Mystique this whole time. It also doesn't work with what I've found and it's too complicated to try to explain how it could have been her this whole time and where the real Stryker had been this whole time. Trying to say he's been locked up while Mystique's been parading as him doesn't work. Stryker is an integral part of making mutants into science experiments and building weapons from those experiments.
Thirdly, I've always been so thrown off as to why it was revealed at the end of Future Past that Stryker on the boat with Logan had been Mystique parading as him. I finally searched online and found the answer from the director, Bryan Singer. He said that it was a total afterthought and something added last minute. Here's his quote:
“I have to be honest, the idea to have Stryker’s eyes turn yellow was added to the film very close to its completion,” Singer explained. “However I ended up liking it because it showed Mystique’s path of secretly helping mutants. In that case Wolverine. It is a path that continues into X-Men: Apocalypse.”
So my assumption I'd come to shortly before finding this was correct. Based on the fact that in Apocalypse, she'd going around helping free mutants, I assumed, maybe she was there to try to free Logan from being taken to Alkali but she ended up failing on that one. Just too many people against one, so she had to let that one go.
Now I know Apocalypse is not canon to our RPG, but it gives us an idea of what it was that Mystique left Charles to go out and do on her own. It makes sense, based off Future Past, that that was the path she'd taken. She no longer was feeling like she could be Team Charles or Team Erik. She kinda chose a place between. It was actually her that freed Kurt from that circus.
Maybe since Mystique had left to do her own thing, she still was connecting with Charles in a way. Not personally, but maybe she did go off to free mutants around the world and when they were young ones, would send them Charles' way. That would explain why Kurt ended up there. I'm sure that Charles would sometimes use Cerebro to help fellow mutants but there are just so very many out there and so very many that need help and he also needs to concentrate on the ones already at his school. What if whenever he can, he does use Cerebro and when he comes across one needing help that he thinks wouldn't be too dangerous for Raven to help, he reaches out to her mentally?
Sorry, I really hate bursting anyone's plot bubble ideas but story consistency is so important.
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Post by Kristi Lynne on Nov 15, 2019 7:37:56 GMT -8
I just had an idea! Could we possibly link Mystique to Maeve's lost sister, Ivette? Ivette is a healer who was working at DC-area hospital until she disappeared. Perhaps Mystique enlisted her, voluntarily or no, to help with a wounded mutant or mutants. Hollywood Heidi Anduin
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Nov 17, 2019 10:03:33 GMT -8
I'm a little unsure as for where to send Logan next. XD It seems like Jean and Peter are waiting for his arrival but I thought we wanted to start something between Mystique and him? Is that still the plan or do you want to start her somewhere else off, Anja? I'm actually fine either way. He also could first join the group of Jean and Peter but then going his own way at some point during their trip, or even just not show up for the trip, which actually might be more likely. XD Anduin Ariel Kristi Lynne
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Nov 17, 2019 11:27:30 GMT -8
Kristi Lynne I like that idea if Anduin is okay with it! Could actually combine it with eventually leading to Trask having her? Maybe the safe haven Mystique had created was found and raided by Trask, leading to Ivette and some others being taken. That could also be why Mystique decides to return to Charles. Trask has gotten so big and powerful that Mystique alone can't fight them. Easy to break out the ones being held in random other places (like Kurt at the circus) but more and more are ending up in Trask facilities that have become forces too big to be reckoned with by only one or two individuals. That could create some fun drama between Raven and Maeve. Maeve could blame Raven for her sister ending up in Trask hands, thinking her sister would have been just fine working quietly in a hospital. So in that case, it might be best if Ivette had voluntarily gone with Raven or if Ivette had somehow found out about them and decided on her own she was going to join them. That way Maeve has to grudgingly deal with the fact that she can't fully blame Raven. Thought I'd step in and see if I can help with the Logan mall thing. He could still go with them as planned as the chaperone. Maybe another student goes with them but it's actually Raven posing as the student? Maybe she'd gotten to the mansion earlier that morning or a day ago, posing as a student, feeling things out. Sees Logan heading out and decides to go along to find out what's going on. Last she saw him, he'd been captured by Trask and she'd failed at freeing him. But here he is. Jean and Peter can go off shopping on their own and Raven disguised as the student sticks by Logan and starts to question him on how he got out, what's going on with Charles and with things at the mansion. Maybe she'd heard about a few of the other mutants who'd escaped from Trask facilities and is trying to figure how and if it was Charles and his people. Kristi Lynne Ariel Anduin DarkSideCookie
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Nov 17, 2019 11:35:35 GMT -8
I like those ideas and thanks in general for stepping in to help I'm gonna wait for Anja to read this and decide how she wanna bring in Raven.
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Post by Ariel on Nov 18, 2019 9:43:42 GMT -8
Jean and Peter can go off shopping on their own and Raven disguised as the student sticks by Logan and starts to question him on how he got out, what's going on with Charles and with things at the mansion. Maybe she'd heard about a few of the other mutants who'd escaped from Trask facilities and is trying to figure how and if it was Charles and his people. Kristi Lynne Ariel Anduin DarkSideCookie Sounds good to me!
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Post by Anduin on Nov 25, 2019 9:11:04 GMT -8
Hollywood Heidi Kristi Lynne Ariel DarkSideCookieWow, you all got some good ideas. ^^ I especially love the idea with Trask Industries and Maeve's sister because (Of course I had to read all of your former Posts to be up to date with this RPG. Sadly I didn't have much time to spend at the PC because I still wasn't feeling really good. When I got home from work I sat down at my Couch until it was time to sleep... >.< But now it's finally better.) That's also good but Maybe we could Exchange Raven into Kurt so I would have a first Scene with him, too. Surely they couldn't ask Logan Questions but perhaps something inside Logan's mind recognized Jean or made him feel like he should known her or something like this. (Yes, I have to create Kurt's Bio first. Will do it tomorrow I hope because today I want to write some Posts. Sadly I didn't manage to do so during the last week and want to make good for that. °^^ )
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Post by Anduin on Jan 6, 2020 10:51:21 GMT -8
I'm back. (or better say our Internet is back °^^ )
I'm so sorry that I was offline for more than two weeks.
But I have to deal with all the open post and other stuff step by step. (too much for one evening )
And I also thought about my list of characters...
Sorry again, but I think I'll drop out of X-Men.
That RPG is already running so you can keep it on. I didn't write a post so far so there's no active plot that I would cut by resigning Mystique.
Hope you can understand this decision.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Jan 11, 2020 19:24:48 GMT -8
No prob! I've put that on my To-Do list. I'll take care of it as soon as I can!
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Post by Ariel on Mar 14, 2020 8:46:18 GMT -8
sorry tony i didn't manage to get to my peter post in time to correct it before the logan post, but perhaps we can claim that peter is just forgetful maybe jean can correct him and then maybe he carries on the whole 'loser' train. DarkSideCookie Kristi Lynne
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Mar 14, 2020 23:03:47 GMT -8
Oh man, I'm sorry, I totally forgot about that. XD Do you want me to edit my Logan post? Ariel Kristi Lynne
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Post by Kristi Lynne on May 11, 2020 18:19:15 GMT -8
So I wanted to revisit our potential plots for something to do once our little shopping trip is done, and because Maeve and Erik are just way too happy and content right now. As far as we know, Moira is still tracking the movements of Roderick and Trask Industries. It's possible that they're either mobilizing for, or dealing with the aftermath of a raid on a mutant haven. I know we don't have a player for Mystique, but she could still be involved in those efforts. Something that leads to the discovery of Maeve's sister Ivette, and something that could pull the team together again and make use of their powers/skillz.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on May 13, 2020 19:36:11 GMT -8
Definitely good to start figuring out our next big drama! Maeve and Erik are making the best of the weekend cuz I'm sure they both know things aren't gonna be like that again after it's over! They're both gonna end up back at the X-Mansion by the end of the weekend. Erik's gonna start trying to talk her into going back to the X-Mansion so the whole team can help and she's gonna get sick of his nagging and give in. XD Thought it'd be fun if Jean and Peter and some of the others help her with training. She never really learned her full extent and could especially learn how to get a handle on teleporting people with her. She did it once, so it's definitely within her capabilities. Could be very useful in order to teleport Ivette out or some of the team in or whatever. That'd be a fun side project before our next big action scene. Perhaps she can start working with Jean on that while we let Erik and Peter have their private moment. Good idea still making use of Mystique even if we don't have a player. She's been out and about, helping fellow mutants. If we want to avoid having to temp-play much or at all, we could have her call or have her send an envelope with a letter and pictures. Or, knowing that Moira has always been on the side of mutants and since she and Charles are a bit on the outs, she could send something to Moira instead which would give Moira a very big in to the group? I like the idea that Trask had just raided a mutant haven and took in a bunch more mutants. That's definitely something the folks at the X-Mansion would feel they need to get involved in. Not only would those mutants be made prisoners, but they all know Trask uses mutants to create weapons against mutants and to strengthen themselves against mutant attacks. So yah, definitely wanna get those mutants out of there before Trask and the Purifiers become so powerful that they can't be taken down. I had the idea that more and more of their bases are becoming harder to find so that it's more challenging. Charles can't detect missing mutants and certain Trask facilities that have been upgraded to block telepathic probing after having had Erik's helmet to study and base their own tech off of. So Moira's position could definitely be a huge help. Hopefully that's good to get the ball rolling. Maybe we can come up with more specific ideas as we continue to discuss and I might be a bit better at plotsy stuff during the weekend when my brain's not broken from work.
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Post by Kristi Lynne on May 14, 2020 18:47:40 GMT -8
Yeah, we can definitely do some training with Maeve. We could definitely make that work with Mystique making the CIA aware of the situation. Given her ability, she could come and go from the building without anyone taking notice. She could probably disguise herself as Moira if she wanted.
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Post by Ariel on May 16, 2020 8:07:48 GMT -8
Yeah, we can definitely do some training with Maeve. We could definitely make that work with Mystique making the CIA aware of the situation. Given her ability, she could come and go from the building without anyone taking notice. She could probably disguise herself as Moira if she wanted. Training with Maeve sounds fantastic, Peter is in! He'll be ecstatic to see step mother ghosty again.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on May 17, 2020 17:25:10 GMT -8
How are the mall rats doing? You guys think you might want a little time jump soon? We're at morning, so maybe to afternoon? I think Erik and Maeve are almost at a good time for a little time jump. No rush. Just feels like maybe the plot ball in starting is slowing its roll to the finish line on the two separate plots. Ariel DarkSideCookie Kristi Lynne
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Post by Kristi Lynne on May 17, 2020 20:35:23 GMT -8
But Jean is having such fun playing Magneto. I'll leave it up to Ariel and Tony, but I'm cool with a time jump at the mall. They can be chilling at the food court after hours of productive shopping. And now I picture Logan staring at one of those 3D illusion paintings, getting all pissed off that everyone sees it but him....
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on May 17, 2020 20:56:26 GMT -8
Lmao!! Omg, I forgot about those! But seriously, no rush. Just wanted to get a feel for how everyone was feeling. I definitely need more of Jean's Magneto impressions! XD
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Post by Ariel on May 18, 2020 14:40:31 GMT -8
But Jean is having such fun playing Magneto. I'll leave it up to Ariel and Tony, but I'm cool with a time jump at the mall. They can be chilling at the food court after hours of productive shopping. And now I picture Logan staring at one of those 3D illusion paintings, getting all pissed off that everyone sees it but him.... I'm good with this! i presume only a few more posts left until we're ready, i don't know how serious Peter can take Jean as magnet daddy xD
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Post by DarkSideCookie on May 28, 2020 15:18:25 GMT -8
Am I the only one who doesn't get the 3D illusion painting line? XD
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on May 28, 2020 19:33:04 GMT -8
Lol!!! I guess so. They were really big back in the day. It's those pictures where they tell you to stand really close, like nose touching, then slowly move back to try to see the hidden image. At least those are the ones I imagined. I remember them being really huge in the 90's! I even have binder dividers with the Magic Eye 3D illusions. XD
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Post by Ariel on May 31, 2020 14:36:23 GMT -8
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