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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Jul 10, 2017 15:28:39 GMT -8
This is the place for the writers to discuss potential plot ideas for the RPG. Please keep in mind that these are only suggestions of the players and that a majority of the players must agree to an idea before it goes into effect. If it is a plot that directly involves a character, then the player of that character can decide if it's what they want to happen. Please keep things civil and be respectful of ideas your fellow players may come up with. Remember, this is a fun, stress-free place. Keep things on the topic of plots in this thread so that players don't have to weed through off topic posts. If you have a plot idea that you think will need a lot of discussion, you may create a new thread in the RPG Out of Character Discussions board.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Jul 10, 2017 19:49:45 GMT -8
I really love how Marvel/Disney/Etc. have built the MCU. I've loved or at least really liked every movie and show in the universe so I vote that we keep everything that's happened and start the RPG sometime after Spider-Man: Homecoming. Whether it be right after or years later, I don't really mind. I'm just all for keeping what's already been set into place. Now or sometime after rather than backtracking is also good for getting the Guardians of the Galaxy into the picture. Right now, the MCU has expanded to include other dimensions and a further reach into the galaxy so all the work is already done that'll help bring all the characters from all the movies and shows together, which is why we've got Avengers: Infinity Wars coming up in less than a year! (Side note, I'm gonna geek out so hard seeing the insane amount of characters all together in that movie!) Our other issue is how freakin' vast the whole MCU is. The characters are widespread. I think the majority of characters all within the same basic area would be the Avengers team located at the new Avengers facility in New York. However, the Avengers do travel to anywhere they're needed in the world. The members of the Avengers do have the Sokovia Accords controlling what they do and where they go (that'll be fun drama) and then there are the few that didn't sign that are basically fugitives. Bringing the two halves back together to fight against a common threat will be fun. That's the other thing. Who's our big baddie gonna be and are we gonna have some more minor baddies? I feel like Thanos would be the big baddie that would give the Guardians a reason to go to Earth. Thanos wants all the infinity stones and at least two of them are on Earth. I think that's basically what Infinity Wars will end up being about but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be really fun to play out our version of it! Thoughts?
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Post by Storyteller on Jul 10, 2017 20:33:25 GMT -8
I agree Thanos should be an involved baddie. From what I've heard, Infinity Wars is going to be set four years after Guardians Vol 2 and I'm okay sticking with that if everyone else is (not sure where that fits with the other movies).
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 11, 2017 9:23:14 GMT -8
I feel like not being able to give good thoughts at this, as I haven't watched most of the movies yet. Shame on me, I know. ^^'
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Post by Storyteller on Jul 11, 2017 10:07:30 GMT -8
I know the feeling Ilona! I feel better playing a GotG character because they're pretty far removed from everything else at this point, I don't feel as obsessed with needing to know everything .
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Post by Storyteller on Jul 13, 2017 4:58:42 GMT -8
I was thinking this morning- it might be interesting to give Thanos a right hand man (or woman) if anyone is looking to create an OC baddie. Maybe another 'daughter' or 'son' of Thanos who has risen to the top since both Gamora and Nebula have deserted and Korath was killed by Drax. They could prove to be a central enemy since I get the feeling Thanos doesn't often get his own hands dirty out in the field.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 13, 2017 21:10:55 GMT -8
OMG, may I? Already have a character idea! Let's make them three sisters! How about they once had a younger sister, who died because of an accident, the other part of the family survived. Well, all shall think she's dead. But in truth she somehow managed to survive, but with real damage. She could have been a very young girl when that happens. It could have made her hate her family though and she started later plans for revenge. Even Thanos shall not know she is alive, so she goes by another name nowadays and purport to be Thanos' new right hand. What do you think?
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 13, 2017 21:12:14 GMT -8
I imagine her to be really crazy lol
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Post by Storyteller on Jul 13, 2017 21:59:39 GMT -8
Crazy enough to make Nebula look sane? 😜 I think it would make total sense that Thanos would have taken and trained other children as well but their numbers dwindled as they died off through training and missions. I came across some backstory from the comics based off the movie on the MCU wiki pages- apparently in an early mission to find the Orb, Thanos sent Gamora and Nebula to follow up on a lead and Nebula ended up getting herself caught in some sort of laser net. Thanos ordered Gamora to leave her with only a sharp blade and she had to cut her own arm off to free herself (which is how she ended up with a completely cybernetic one). I don't know if Ariel and I are going to include that in our backstory but I don't think it's far fetched that another girl could have been lost during the training process. The trick would just be making sure she's different so she isn't stealing Nebula's thunder. I'm not positive that Thanos would take on someone as his right hand (wo)man if he hadn't trained them/knew where they came from though. Hollywood Heidi- thoughts?
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 14, 2017 0:59:21 GMT -8
Yah that's actually what I feared. That she would be too much Nebula. Hm. And what if making her a man? Lol
Or maybe it's better there is not a sibling connection but something else?
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 14, 2017 1:01:46 GMT -8
Gosh sorry, I'm still thinking and even not 100% percent sure if I would want to play Thanos' right hand. :/ I just don't like Thanos lol
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Post by Ariel on Jul 14, 2017 9:35:36 GMT -8
Love the idea of someone from Thanos`s shadow that would be connected to Nebula and Gamora rising to the top as a villan. Not sure if they need another sibling but would be cool if the they were connected to this villan somehow. I`ll definitely brainstorm as I do more Nebula research Cracking down hard right now as I put together her bio!
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 14, 2017 10:20:05 GMT -8
Oh Amelia and I ended up discussing via fb. I decided to not make it another sibling as it would probably too much Nebula. I don't want that. I think I'll wait with my baddie appearance till everyone came up with their characters to play. I actually would prefer to have a villain that is connected not only to Gotg characters, something like an allround-villain. I'll brainstorm that too, but anyway, always open for ideas!
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Post by Ariel on Jul 14, 2017 10:54:47 GMT -8
Perhaps this new baddie is looking to destroy Thanos? Or something that would involve the destruction of Thanos, somehow? I know that was Nebula's main mission she set off on at the end of GoTG 2 and being as she isn't entirely loyal to any sort of side, she could team up with whomever it may be that Ilona creates. Gamora would definitely be disappointed, but hey, nothing says interesting like a little bit of family drama!
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 14, 2017 11:08:04 GMT -8
Ohooo what if Nebula changes between sides again because my baddie (also decided to probably make it a man) has some kind of effect on her... in the sexy way I mean lol xD
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 14, 2017 11:12:32 GMT -8
His main goal though shouldn't be to destroy Thanos, just to make sure he will be tied into the other Marvel worlds too. But I definetely like that connection. What do you think?
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Post by Storyteller on Jul 14, 2017 13:52:39 GMT -8
I actually think Thanos ties into the other Marvel properties too (he's the main baddie at the center of Infinity Wars, which is everybody). But Heidi is more the expert on that. Ariel - Awwwwww just when we were starting to see some hope for those two . Haha seriously though, it wouldn't be Nebula and Gamora without a nice big helping of family drama.
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Post by Storyteller on Jul 14, 2017 20:52:50 GMT -8
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 15, 2017 1:58:53 GMT -8
Hey Ariel, I know you probably haven't read my suggestion about the baddie/Nebula connection yet, but I had another idea and just have to let it out right now. XD Well, Nebula is someone deep inside longing for love (may it be family love or else) I think. I imagined a scene in which she's sitting alone at some public place (a bar? Or something else?). She somehow feels lonely, even though she got back her sister. Maybe because she still doesn't feel like a part of their group? I think it's not easy to make someone feel to be part of a social group after she lived such a lonely life filled with anger and hatred. Okay, so here's the scene. My baddie is sitting there too, all alone just like her. And he notices her, as their eyes accidentally meet, maybe giving her a slight smile. She feels like he would understand her, even though they don't know anything about each other and never met before. Okay what do you think? Could that fit to Nebula's character? Anyway, that could be one reason why he eventually will be able to get her on his side in war.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 15, 2017 2:02:12 GMT -8
She probably even wouldn't admit romantic feelings to herself, maybe never thought about such a thing at all. Maybe because she thinks she isn't beautiful like her sister as the cyberhuman she is? Just thoughts..
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 15, 2017 2:15:34 GMT -8
Or maybe he sees her training somewhere?
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 15, 2017 2:58:05 GMT -8
Or both? And training could be a second meeting where he actually talks to her?
Lol I'm so sorry! Now I really wait and stop thinking about it for now... I try to. XD
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Jul 15, 2017 9:56:23 GMT -8
I definitely agree that the baddie shouldn't be yet another familial tie. There's just so many already in the MCU.
And yes, Thanos is not tied to GotG. He actually first appeared in the MCU in a stinger after The Avengers. His main objective is to get all the Infinity Stones and his main hatred has been expressed toward the Avengers.
If Nebula wants to get back at Thanos and she doesn't feel that going to his lair would be the best way (I'm sure it's a fortress swarming with guards) then the best way to get to someone is to draw them out. How do you draw out Thanos? Get to what he most covets. That would be the Infinity Stones.
It could be that the main baddie doesn't necessarily have a thing against superheroes, but he could definitely hate Thanos and have the idea to go after the Stones. Maybe he just has a thing in general against all the people currently holding power. Perhaps he doesn't agree that the Avengers nor Thanos are the right people to be wielding such power so maybe he wants the Stones for himself, either to destroy them or because he feels he would be the person worthy of dominating the universe. Or maybe he doesn't think anybody should and wants it all destroyed.
We know that Thanos has the Infinity Gauntlet that the stones would be placed into. But there was a really great point made in one of the earlier movies; gloves tend to come in pairs. Thanos has the left-handed gauntlet and in Thor, we see that the right-handed Gauntlet is in Odin's Trophy Room guarded by The Destroyer.
So, if the baddie goes to steal the right-handed gauntlet, he might be able to do that. Right now, Asgard doesn't have either of their two main rulers. We saw in Thor 2, that Loki was impersonating Odin and sitting on the throne. In Doctor Strange, the stinger shows Thor asking Doctor Strange's help in finding his father who is on Earth. That means that sometime between Thor 2 and Strange, Thor figured out that Loki was on the throne and that Loki had sent Odin to Earth (who we'll find out is some homeless man who has no memory of who he is, which is why Thor was asking for Strange's help).
I think this would basically involve everyone. Gamora could be concerned over her sister and after some digging or perhaps she's got someone tailing her sister, she could find out their plan and that's why they could end up on Earth. Anything to do with the Infinity Stones is enough to involve anyone and everyone. The GotG saw firsthand what one of those gems could do.
I'll post something in the Maps and Specs about the current location of each of the Infinity Stones so far so we can more easily see how it involved everyone.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Jul 16, 2017 23:13:51 GMT -8
Okay you guys. I've unlocked the Request to Join. We still need to decide an exact date or at least year to base this on. We also need to decide on the main objective. I know some said that seeing what characters are requested to join would help with this but visa versa is also true. I was kinda waiting to see what our main objective would be so that I could decide which character to put in for.
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Post by Storyteller on Jul 17, 2017 7:13:17 GMT -8
Everyone seemed to agree to go with the rumors about Infinity War- starting four years after GotG Vol 2. I think that would put us in 2018/2019 (since GotG Vol 2 took place only a few months after the first one did in 2014).
I'm open to suggestions on main objective. Obviously we'll have to get the Guardians to Terra if we have characters there. The best way to do that is probably the threat of Thanos but I'm sure that there are other ways as well. It will probably rest on who ends up being our PC villain.
Anyone else have any ideas?
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 17, 2017 8:44:19 GMT -8
They could in addition hear about the rumors someone attempts on famous people and places of power. That would be my villain. There probably are hung out wanted posters all around. I don't really care about the planet he comes from, will decide once we came up with the place to start. They also could meet up with him on their way to fight Thanos, not knowing if he is friend or foe, as he is planning to attack Thanos too. Maybe that is the first scene with my baddie. His face will be covered by a hood or something, so Nebula later wouldn't know the man he later meets is the same person. Just an idea. ^^
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Jul 17, 2017 8:44:43 GMT -8
Btw what do you mean by “PC villain“?
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Post by Ariel on Jul 17, 2017 9:25:31 GMT -8
I like the idea of the plot being set around the time of the new movie, few years after GoTG 2. I think the time jump will also allow more room for creativity, as anything could have happened to lead up to this point from the end of the last movie until now. Heidi I love the idea of drawing Thanos out with the stones. During the time jump Nebula could have attempted a mission into Thanos's lair with recruitment (realizing she wouldn't be able to go at it alone, so she would train an army to her own expertise) which would have led to failure of course, annihilating the entirety of her crew. Alone and defeated she would be searching for answers and ways to get to Thanos, and that's when she'd meet our new baddie. She wouldn't care for him at first until she learns that tagging along with him would be to her advantage. Also I found this article on the infinity stones, it was super insightful and thought I would share if anyone wanted to read more about them: www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8560555/marvel-infinity-stones-avengers-infinity-war-movie
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Post by Storyteller on Jul 17, 2017 9:54:51 GMT -8
Sorry, table top roleplaying speak! I meant Player Character villain (aka, a character that actually has someone playing them).
We have some good ideas! Ariel- I was thinking that maybe Gamora and Nebula haven't seen each other since the end of Vol 2. It could add to the distance between them at least remaining the same rather than improving at all. What say you?
I also love the idea of using the stones. Kevin and I also talked about the possibility that maybe Thanos has started getting the stones- like maybe he attacked the Nova Corps (which I'm afraid might happen either in or before Infinity War and it makes me scared for the fate of Xandar).
It does seem to me though that, as Ilona is playing a villain and Thanos doesn't have a player, that maybe we want to start with something with him and hold Thanos off for long term. Maybe keeping him as an always looming threat but not a direct villain yet.
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Post by Ariel on Jul 17, 2017 10:00:47 GMT -8
Yes, I love it! Will definitely create a lot of built up emotions between them from not seeing each other for years. Having Thanos as a threat but not a direct villain definitely seems the way to go right now, I definitely don't see that posing as a problem! We wouldn't need him directly until a long while from now, I feel. It would make sense for Thanos to start obtaining the stones, it would be a great way to incorporate more marvel characters that way
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