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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Aug 6, 2017 14:40:53 GMT -8
Hey guys! As I was working on my Hope bio, I had a few other important things come up that need to be decided upon. First of all, it looks like our RPG will be set in 2018 which is when Infinity Wars is releasing/taking place. The other thing we need to decide on is the current fate in 2018 of Captain America and the people who were on his side. I hate to be spoilery for those who haven't had a chance to watch all the MCU, but at the end of Civil War, Team Captain's crew was locked up by the government in a floating prison called the Raft but we see Cap break them out. This is important for my character cuz Scott Lang/Ant-Man was one of them. I'm assuming Cap and those who were on his team went into hiding since they are basically war criminals. This is taking place about a year after Captain America: Civil War so I'm assuming they're all still in hiding. Is everyone good with that? I'm assuming the events of Infinity War is what will bring them out of hiding and have them joining back up with the Avengers without thread of the government taking them in again cuz shit's about to hit the fan and all hands are needed. We could definitely incorporate the whole war criminals/government attempting to lock-up as some fun drama but of course everyone will come to realize that needs to be put aside for now.
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Post by Medieval Kevin on Aug 6, 2017 17:08:51 GMT -8
I'm cool with that
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Post by Storyteller on Aug 6, 2017 17:21:30 GMT -8
As I'm not caught up and have no context, I will defer to you guys.
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Post by The Jester Of Tortuga on Aug 6, 2017 18:44:19 GMT -8
Judging by the comic con footage I am going with yeah, it will bring them out of hiding but I mean it was mainly Capt and Stark talking so maybe not. Also the stuff from Ant-Man and Wasp has Scott Lang in public doesn't look like he is trying to hide or anything. So at a guess Infinity will do a there are greater threats and forget about the accords.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Aug 7, 2017 10:41:17 GMT -8
I do join Amelia in abstain from discussing this, because of the same reason. ^^
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Oct 2, 2017 7:50:34 GMT -8
Hey guys! As my point of view has changed (watched almost every of the yet published MCU movies!), I'd like to chip in the conversation about what could have happened after Civil War. I actually agree with the suggestions from Heidi above. But as I'm going to request my Tony Stark/Iron Man bio (Yay! XD) as soon as possible, I've some things to discuss with you first. I don't know if Tony will appear in the Spiderman: Homecoming movie, as I haven't seen that one yet, but I imagine Tony to somehow got back to his former being, maybe even trying to hide his pain inside by playing the self-centered playboy again, still having problems with Pepper he just avoids to confront himself with. Anyways, at some point in our RPG he totally should be the one calling Cap for help (hinting at the very end of the Civil War movie). I imagine him though to have had that phone in his hand, struggling with himself about contacting his former friend or not. But till then he always would have decided for not. Okay, then something else. Is there any possibility to change that Tony had completely cured his heart? XD I mean, I so liked that lighting in his chest, lol. In the end of Iron Man 3 he had used the botanist's formula to heal Pepper and also to heal his own heart, so that he wasn't relying on the electromagnet protecting it anymore. Is there any chance to change that past event a little? Like he was able to use it only on one person, maybe because of one missing or very low existing substance? So he could have used it for his own healing (as the egoist everyone thought him to be), but decided to heal Pepper instead. With the new element protecting his heart, that one he gained during Iron Man 2, he at least had been able to get away from the poisoning or was it just slowing the effect down instead of stopping it? I'm not so sure about that right now. If you think this would be too much of a change, just tell me. ^^' But I actually think if he had been able to heal only one person and decided to use it on Pepper, that would show how much she really meant to him and also made it more dramatic that she has left him.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Oct 2, 2017 19:39:43 GMT -8
Oh, you need to watch Spider-Man: Homecoming. There's actually a lot of big Tony stuff that happens in there! XD I won't say anything further cuz I don't wanna spoil it.
I'm not so sure it's a good idea to change big things that have happened before the point we've decided to start the RPG. I know the plot in Iron Man 3 of him getting the surgery so he's no longer constantly threatened by death was kinda weak. I don't believe it had anything to do with the plant that healed Pepper though? At least I didn't understand it that way. They kinda wrapped up that problem so quickly.
Gah, I can't say anything more, especially regarding Tony and Pepper. You'll just have to watch Homecoming. It's out on DVD soon or you can stream rent it earlier than DVD release usually.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Oct 3, 2017 0:12:15 GMT -8
Hmm okay. Actually looking forward to see a Tony in the Spiderman movie, but that probably will make my ideas go puff xD Yes it was because of the formula from the woman he has met in the past. They told us only in one of the deleted scenes, which really sucks. Would have explained much more, y'know. So I'm not allowed to still let him have the electromagnet protecting his heart? Hollywood Heidi
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Oct 5, 2017 18:38:58 GMT -8
I know we're still working on getting our characters set up but until we're ready to actually get rolling, we can start to get some location threads created. Please submit your requests in the Request a New Location so we can be ready to go.
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Post by Anduin on Oct 5, 2017 23:33:30 GMT -8
Hey, I wanna join your disscussions here - I´ve read them all now. First: I´ve to admit that I haven´t watch all of the movies so far. (Last one was The Avengers, Age of Ultron) But I will do very soon! Spiderman Homecoming will be able to buy in november in Germany, and Thor: "Tag der Entscheidung"* [Ragnarok] (Why the hell does it get an boring german title?! Couldn´t they use the original one??? Thor 2 also was named "The dark Kingdom" in Germany...) will be in our cinemas at the end of October. Second: I also like to play a villain!!! (even if I already get Loki!) But I´ll wait which sort Ilona´s one would turn out, because some of her mentioned ideas are similar to mine... (excluding romantic tendences for Nebula) besides: If you guys could have seen me reading this thread!!! I was loughing and saying "OMG! I would say so, too" (Sometimes it´s eerie how much Ilona and I do think the same!!!) Hm, suddenly I perhaps have another idea... What if Ego (Peter Quill´s father) had another child, which he hasn´t found until his end?! But the child always felt that he/she is more than just a normal person... With Ego´s destroying he/she felt like loosing something never known. Shortly after Thanos find him/her - and began to train him/her... (Hm, I think I´ll prefer a male villain ^^ ) Oh, but for now I´m not sure which race he should be. (no human, I think, because this would be too similar to Star Lord!) * german title: ment "Day of decision"
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Oct 6, 2017 2:20:45 GMT -8
Haha we're one mind, Anja 😂 Wow I love that idea!! And it totally wouldn't collide with mine! My idea is a villain planning on destroying the infinity stones, as they are giving power to humans they shouldn't have in his opinion. He wants to "clean" the planet from all too powerful people which includes also the Avengers AND Thanos. So he pretty much will be a lone villain with the only exception of his later feelings for Nebula. So if you play a villain at Thanos' side, yours and mine most probably will stand in a fight against each other eventually. Wouldn't that be cool? My villain doesn't sees himself as one, but as a rescuer.
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Post by Anduin on Oct 6, 2017 3:46:58 GMT -8
DarkSideCookie Haha, I think it sounds really cool! But I hope someone´s gonna play Thor. I love family-dramas!!!
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Post by Ariel on Oct 6, 2017 9:40:06 GMT -8
So when the rpg starts up officially, will you be introducing your baddie into the story right away Ilona? And will him and Nebula be meeting right from the start? I'm just wondering, as if that is not the case then I will be brainstorming what to do with Nebula until then Obviously she will be with moping around with the same burning vengeance especially since her crew just got annihilated. If there's anything I can help with, just let me know DarkSideCookie
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Oct 6, 2017 10:37:08 GMT -8
Actually I haven't thought about that XD I'd be fine with both, starting it right away or giving you some time for another plot. What would work better for you? Ariel
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Post by Ariel on Oct 6, 2017 10:45:49 GMT -8
We could definitely have them meet and have him recruit her in her current lone wolf state if you don't have any other plans first, whether it be with the baddie or another character
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Oct 6, 2017 10:47:52 GMT -8
I'd like that! Okay I should work on his bio asap! So excited for this! For the whole RPG! Ariel
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Oct 24, 2017 7:17:22 GMT -8
Hey Anduin and The Jester Of TortugaToday I came up with a potential first meeting scene between Tony, Winter and Spidey!! Okay, here you go: Anja, I'm not sure whether you wanted Winter to roam around as her self-given Alter Ego Icequeen or just letting her use it in her own dreams of becoming a superhero. I kinda imagined her like once Spiderman has started. Helping the plain people. If so, how about during her "work" as Icequeen she meets up with Spiderman, because hey, they are trying to protect the same town? But then all of a sudden, the happening could go out of control or/and it contains something or someone of the Avenger's latest interest. So, here is where Tony comes into play. As he still has an eye on Spidey, it would be no problem for him to quickly get aware of the situation. He could jump into his Iron Man suit and help them once it gets hairy (and of course not without some "paternal" rebuke on Spidey in the end lol). Maybe he even rescues Winter's life in last second, when Spidey wasn't able to for any reason? Would make her first meeting with her idol pretty interesting. XD Also, I already imagine a second meeting between the two of them, in which Tony (that time in civil) could fob her off, because he's just busy or something, not even recognizing her right away anyway, as he probably would have cleared off after the first meeting without saying a lot (above all not to her, but rather some words to Spiderman). That would mean a little disappointment for Winter I think. Well, Tony has one big ego. Hm, what do you think?
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Oct 24, 2017 19:57:00 GMT -8
Just a quick update. I went through all the posts and see that we settled on 2018 for the year the RPG starts. I'm going to fix the board description to include that so I don't have to try to keep hunting that down! Please keep the year in mind when submitting requests to join of canon characters. Peter Parker - Born March, 2001. I already talked to Jester through IM about fixing Peter's age from 16 to 17. Hope Van Dyne - Born 1980. I've already fixed Hope's age. Tony Stark - Born May 29th, 1970. Ilona, you have his age right. As for Gamora, I'm not sure how long a Zehoberei year is compared to an Earth year and as for Nebula, there's no age or year or birth listed anywhere so that's up to Ariel and Amelia, since I'm sure the two "sisters" are close in age.
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Post by DarkSideCookie on Oct 25, 2017 2:17:23 GMT -8
I was wondering btw, if we could make timejumps in the beginning of our RPG. I mean just the way we did with Eric and Maeve in X-men. I think as long as we don't have a meet up with everyone at the same time, it should be okay, right? Makes it easier to let the relation between characters look more realistic. For example it would be strange to come up with romantic feelings for someone you know for only two days or something. Later we could put everything together in a timeline.
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Post by Anduin on Oct 27, 2017 11:35:12 GMT -8
DarkSideCookie I like this idea very much! The Jester Of Tortuga I considered my Character-concept for Winter and thought that she should go to the same school as Peter Parker. So if it´ll be okay for you, I would say the two already know each other - except ther alter egos. That means that Peter knows her Alias (Icequeen) and that she tries to be a superheroine, but she wouldn´t recognize him being Spidey. btw - I´ve changed Winter´s age from 20 to 17 because then she could also be a student at Peters school. (hope it´s okay ^^)
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Oct 27, 2017 20:02:15 GMT -8
We can most definitely play stuff that happened in the past! Just do a heading like ***5 Years Ago*** so everyone knows it's a flashback. We all just have to be careful with keeping canon. The MCU is so vast and going off script of what's in existence from Homecoming and before could start a ripple effect! Sharizha, Winter's age change is totally fine.
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Post by Storyteller on Oct 28, 2017 12:55:32 GMT -8
I think I already altered Gamora's age to go off of the year (based off the age in her MCU wiki- I'm also not sure what a Zehoberei year is compared to Earth so for simplicity sake I'm just going to pretend they are fairly similar). I'll double check to make sure I did!
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Oct 28, 2017 17:21:31 GMT -8
Ilona and Shar, we need to pause the RPing at the Facility and do some more plot discussions before continuing. What I read so far brought up some questions I didn't think to discuss before. We all need to decide what's been going on with the Cap and the other ex-Avengers who are now war criminals. Like I said in the PM, I think if Cap showed up at the Facility, government suits would pull up in minutes to arrest him. I don't think the government guys in charge fully trust Stark or the other Avengers to not try to help their ex-members. I wouldn't be surprised if they have eyes on them and try to trace phone, internet, and any other kind of communications. I'm sure Stark is smart enough to block them from phone and internet communications but as far as keeping eyes or ears off them in every way, that might be hard.
Remember, Cap FedEx'd Stark a burner phone with a note that if he ever needed him, he's a call away. I personally believe that Cap and the others will remain in hiding in Wakanda until the events of Infinity War, which is basically what our RPG is going to be playing out, gives them a reason to have to come out of hiding and will also give them a good argument for the government to not throw them back into underwater prisons or worse since they managed to escape that last time.
It would take me some time to go over the timelines and figure out how many years went by from when Cap sent the burner and from when our RPG takes place. We also need to figure if Stark had any reason to use that phone in all this time. I personally don't feel he would have because doing so would put Cap and the others in hiding in danger of being caught. Wakanda is probably the only place they could get away with hiding. It's an extremely high tech country but nobody outside of Wakanda has any idea of that.
The nations united to create the Accords so all government and police in all countries would have Cap and the others on their most wanted lists. I think the only person who'd be able to sneak out of Wakanda and back into the U.S. the easiest would be Scott Lang but only if he has his Ant-Man suit and remains ant-sized unless in a place where there's no way there'd be eyes or ears.
I know we're really looking forward to getting started but if you guys don't want to wait until we get the clean-up under control a bit so people can create more of the canon characters they were planning to create, then we need to do some plot discussing that will involve only characters currently active with the potential of allowing the future characters to easily join in when they can. If your plot involves a character that's not your character, then we need to make sure we all agree in how that character will be used.
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Post by Anduin on Oct 28, 2017 22:23:23 GMT -8
Oh, okay - sorry.
Think I was just too exited because of Posting-Marathon so that I wanted to play more Chars and used my first best available idea to start.
(But just for explaination: I thought Loki deceived the guards by using an illusion as one of them or something like that. He took on the Captain-illusion until he stood in front of Tonys room. Sometimes it´s difficult to find the right words and explainations for the sake of my rusty english...)
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Oct 28, 2017 23:39:30 GMT -8
Let's work on locking down some main plots that will help all currently active characters have something to do. That might take a bit of time so it's almost better to concentrate on RPGs already running during marathon time. If you want to help this one out right now and you're waiting to be able to post for characters in other RPGs, definitely feel free to post more ideas for locations in the Request a New Locations and help find pictures to use for the ones I had created just recently. As far as what I read so far between Tony and "Cap", I think it's an important fact that Cap and the others from his group wouldn't be out in public. I'm not sure exactly what plot you two had in mind, but Loki is very clever and always seems to have several smart moves lined up that people don't see coming, usually lining up to him ending up in power, like he did in Dark World. He craftily maneuvered everything to wind up eventually fooling his brother into thinking he was Thor's dad. Showing up as Cap is such a huge red flag. I don't know what his goal is by doing that. I chatted with Ilona for a bit while you were sleeping about possibilities of Loki appearing in disguise to Tony. What seems to be his goal? Keeping his seat on the throne of Asgard. There's also that one time he wanted to rule over humans as their god. I'm not sure if that's still a goal he has in mind or if he's moved on to bigger and better things. That's up to you. I'm sure that Thor remains to be a worry for him and his position on the throne. If anybody would figure out the truth and unseat him, it would be Thor. So I wouldn't be surprised if Loki appeared in disguise to see if he could fish for any information. Find out of Tony has heard from Thor or any news from Thor. I don't think he'd be big and flashy and blow his cover by appearing as Cap. If anything, I think the government doesn't fully trust Stark and the other Avengers, knowing the bond that they had with the ex-Avengers and not trusting that they would turn them in or turn in any information of having heard from them. Because of that, I wouldn't be surprised if the government sent over random suits every now and again to meet with Stark and check up on him and the Avengers including questioning him about the war criminals. Thor wasn't there for Civil War so he's not a war criminal but he's still a person of interest because he didn't sign the Accords and I'm sure they'd want to talk to him about doing so before he shows back up again and does anything because now it would be considered a war crime by a vigilante and I'm sure they'd like to talk him into signing so that they'd basically have control over a god. If you guys wanted to go back to the PM and discuss in more detail that specific scene, please feel free to. Brainstorming is lots of fun and I'm always willing to help! For here in Potential Plots, I think it's important we discuss a more broad plot that includes everyone for now before we get down to details.
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Post by Lady Lee-o on Nov 5, 2017 20:39:26 GMT -8
So..... After seeing Thor, I want to be Hela. Do you think we can make that happen? XD I know we already have a baddie but I have a mighty need.
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Nov 5, 2017 20:55:04 GMT -8
We do already have about 3 baddies, if you think about it. The big baddie, Thanos, the baddie that Ilona is working on, and Loki, who is switching to help but you know he's always a baddie! I do like Hela but the question is, how would she fit in? And also, she seems pretty undefeatable, which can tend to be uninteresting (like the problem a lot of people have with Superman). Would even Thanos stand a chance against her? He doesn't have the glove and stones yet, which I think would be the only thing that would give him a chance. Same thing with Captain Marvel. She's so powerful that she would have easily taken care of everything the Avengers came up against, hence the writers for the Captain Marvel movie coming up with the plot that all this time, she's been in another dimension fighting a big war. My guess is she's gonna make a surprise entrance toward the end of Avengers: Infinity War since she'd be able to go up against the gauntlet and stones. But I digress... Unless that creature she came up against at the end of Ragnarok somehow destroyed parts of her powers or the strength of her powers, then I don't think anyone would have much of a chance against her and that's no fun!
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Post by Anduin on Nov 6, 2017 3:30:07 GMT -8
Actually Loki is no real baddie... just himself. Like you said. (Haha, okay - the people on earth of course will always see him as a bad guy.) Nevertheless I also have a (second) baddie: Kyrin, Thanos loyal acolyte. But there will be more potential plots if we have many good guys and also many bad ones. For me it would be okay if Hela appears. I´m sure she and Loki will battle (with fists, knifes or just words) all the time, because she really has to hate him! It would be a great family-drama! (Battle of the Asgardian Divas) And I like such plots. (And besides I think her character was insufficient shown in the movie and that there are still many potential ideas left about her...) The idea of Hela loosing most of her powers during the last battle was exactly the same which came to my mind while reading your comment, Heidi. So, here is a suggestion: What if Hela – already badly wounded - tried to flee over the rainbow-bridge/Bifrost in hope of getting away somehow when she realized that she can´t beat Surtur?! But because everything collapsed she fell into a portal - like Thor and Loki at the beginning of the movie. And perhaps she ended up on earth... According to her powers it was said that she got them from Asgard itself. So if Asgard was destroyed she probably couldn´t become such powerful as before especially on another planet/in another world. (I´m not quite sure if I´ve understand this fact in the right way, but for me it sounded like that... And I hope you could understand what I´m trying to describe because it´s really difficult to do so in English.)
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Post by Hollywood Heidi on Nov 6, 2017 20:43:55 GMT -8
That's right, I forgot about the comment that she draws her power from Asgard, so it could stand to reason that she's far less powerful now that Asgard is gone. So the question is, does she have powers at all? She seemed to easily wipe out people while she was battling alongside her father. She seemed like maybe she was more powerful than Thor, though Thor did a good job standing up to her after he'd finally learned to tap into his own true power. I'd think that with Asgard gone, there's no way she could be more powerful than Thor anymore. Maybe close to as she's still a god but definitely not what she used to be. Lee-o, it's up to you regarding her power but also keep in mind, we have so many bad guys already! I'd forgotten to mention Kyrin. And I agree that Loki isn't always a bad guy but he technically IS classified as a bad guy. He's in everything for himself and would stab any of the heroes in the back if it would serve a better purpose for himself! The heroes serve mankind and their homes. Loki, and other villains, serve themselves. Lee-o, would you be willing to play her more on the same level as Loki, where at least for now, being one of the "good guys" is more to her benefit? Let me know what you think. I'm trying to make sure everyone is happy and gets to play who they want, but we need to be sure we can make it work.
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Post by The Jester Of Tortuga on Nov 7, 2017 2:16:54 GMT -8
In the MCU Hela is Death in the comics they are two different people with Thanos in love with Death (as is Deadpool) I think its reasonable that Hela could fit the same role and work with/for Thanos. In the comics Hela does kill one of the Black Order members and that counter part will be appearing in Infinity War. So there are enough links that it could work rather well, even if you did the Thanos is the Black Order + Nebula & Gamora's father but who is their 'Mother'.
Just ideas in the form of a ramble.
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