Official Discussion: 4x13&14 There’s No Place Like Home:Pt 2

[Hollywood Heidi]

4x13&14 There’s No Place Like Home: Part 2

Original Air Date: May 29, 2008
Centric: Jack, Hurley, Sayid, Sun, Kate centric
Directed by: Jack Bender
Written by: Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof
Summary: As the face-off between the survivors and the freighter people continues, the Oceanic Six find themselves closer to rescue. In the second half, as the face-off between the survivors and the freighter people continues, the Oceanic Six find themselves closer to rescue. (tv.com)
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[DarkSideCookie]

HOLY COW! 5 stars!!!

First of all, I thought it was cool to get something like a seamless transition from a former scene! It's like the puzzle gets put together slowly but surely.

Despite the dicey situation I couldn't help laughing at Desmond's explaining about the bomb and above all Jin's finishing up his last sentence with just "Boom". XD Man, I never thought I would love Jin so much at the beginning of the show, whereas Desmond I've always loved! <3 It's a shame he'll be all alone for still so long in our RPG.

That soda cracker scene! XD And Hurley continue eating them, even handing one out to Sawyer later, after Ben had stated that they had lain in a box for 15 years lol.

Richard saved Sayid! I somehow like that guy, maybe because of this something in his face called charm. XD

For some reason, I can't stand Charlotte. And Miles not so much as well. But it was Dan I somehow liked right from the start, though even more since "The Constant". But I can feel that he is hiding something from the others. There's always this look of guilt on his face, especially when Juliet thanked him.

Loved the whole scene between Ben and Locke inside the orchid station!!! But then again, I do love all scenes between the two of them hehe. Best was when Locke just heard the Dharma guy in the video saying that metallic objects must never be placed within the vault while watching Ben doing just that in the background. XD
And then Ben stabbing Keamy with the knife again and again. Omfg, he just practically killed everyone on the freighter and then his answer to Locke giving him just that to wonder: "So?"

When Lapidus stated that they shall toss things out, a thought, actually more in a funny way, popped up into my mind, which was that Jack could toss Sawyer out lol. But then again, Sawyer indeed was the only one on board who we knew never left the island... That really was a Skate moment then. I really can't understand how Kate can prioritize Jack over Sawyer. I'd choose Sawyer lol. And he did such a brave, selfless thing!

That whole bomb on the freighter scene and the helicopter with the others nearing it was so tense! And so sad! I had to cry really hard when Jin made it towards the deck, but was too late, and still not too late to see them leave and Sun watch the freighter explode... I was prepared for Jin's death, but that was really heartbreaking and heavy.

Sun is really strong and brave in the flashforwards!

And then the moving of the island! But I have a feeling there will come a day for Ben to get himself back on the island somehow. Anyways, I do hope for a lot more Ben scenes.

Desmond and Penny reunion!!!! OMG, yes!!!

Whoa, that Claire at Aaron's bedside scene gave me chills. And when she got angry at Kate, even more.

Ben is back in the flashforwards, yes! That conversation between him and Jack! And Jeremy Bentham is John Locke, wow! I really haven't seen that coming despite all the hints at the beginning of the episode. XD I was actually still excited about who I would get to see when the camera went towards the coffin in the very end lol. But I can't really believe that he's dead. I mean the island doesn't let anyone die who isn't ready to go. And I'm quite sure he wasn't ready yet.

[Hollywood Heidi]

5 stars from me as well! Freakin' amazing episode that had me crying from sadness with Jin then crying even harder with happiness when we heard the guy start shouting, "Miss Widmore!" then got to watch Des and Pen reunite. Omg, the feels. It makes me do this giddy laugh/crying every time!


Here's a fun fact that hardcore fans uncovered!  In Kate's dream, when she picks up the phone and you hear some gibberish, fans discovered it was audio being played backward.  When they took that audio and reversed it, it said, "You have to go back.  The island needs you before it's too late."


You totally mentioned all the things I jotted down whilst watching! I also loved how the scene picks up right where the season 3 finale had ended.

That fight with Sayid and Keamy was great! I'd totally forgotten about his dead man's switch until Keamy was in the Orchid station and showed it to Ben. I'd watched part 1 at least a couple weeks ago.

WAAAALT! It was so great to see him again. He'd gotten so big! I love when people from the past show up. And it was so creepy to hear Hurley say "Checkmate, Mr. Eko". Seems he's been hanging out with a lot of the people who'd died.

I also cracked up at Locke's expression when he was watching the Orientation video and Ben was doing exactly what the video said not to. His acting is so perfect. That speechless pointing and looking back and forth from Ben to the video. XD It's that same guy in all the Orientation films and in every one, he's got a different wax-based name. This time, it was Edgar Halliwax.

Sometimes you forget exactly how chilling Ben can be. When he says "So?" so flippantly and carelessly. Oh man. He's like a spoiled child who doesn't give a single shit about anybody but himself.

Crazy that Jeremy Bentham was Locke!! Things must definitely be as bad as Jack said Locke had told him they were for him to leave his precious island. Gotta also wonder how he left.

Holy crap about the island vanishing after Ben turned the donkey wheel! I really love how those scenes linked up, too. We saw at the beginning of the season Ben showing up in the desert with that winter coat on. We saw the rip in his sleeve and that his arm was hurt. In the finale, we saw how that happened. We also see how and why he ended up there. So great how it all comes back around.

Aw, sorry you don't like Charlotte. I like her. Well, we haven't seen her that much yet. I also end up really liking Miles. There's definitely something Charlotte is keeping. There's a reason she wants to stay there and Miles seems to know what the reason is.

RIP Michael. It's funny how I sometimes forget what he did to Ana Lucia and Libby. He sacrificed himself in the end. That was so creepy, Christian, the manifestation of the island showing up and saying "You can go now." Kinda like, hey thanks, we're done with you. Was it a gift though? Michael had been trying to kill himself. I wonder if during all this, he'd maybe changed his mind.

So where'd the island move to?? Why did things end up going bad once the Oceanic 6 left? Can't wait to see what happens!


Favorite scenes/quotes:

Des & Pen reunion. <3


Locke: You just killed everybody on that boat.
Ben: So?


Hurley: Locke. He moved the island.
Jack: No, he didn't.
Hurley: Oh, really? 'Cause... one minute it was there, and the next it was gone, so... unless we, like, overlooked it, Dude, that's exactly what he did. But... if you've got another explanation, man, I'd love to hear it.


Desmond: As long as I've got Penny, I'll be fine.